Re: New audiophile device brought to our attention

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:43:04 -0700, ChairmanOfTheBored
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:39:05 -0700, John Larkin
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:52:58 -0700, ChairmanOfTheBored
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On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 08:00:35 -0700, John Larkin
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On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 04:17:18 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
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On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:53:45 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
<arnyk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Pure water is about the closest thing to a universal solvent
there is on earth.

Exactly. When you wash your hands, it's the water that does most
of the
work. The soap is merely for reducing the surface tension of
the water.

Actually, the soap/detergent molecules surround the shmutz, making
it easier to "float the dirt right down the drain".

ACTUALLY, the soap reduces the surface tension of the water so
that it
can undermine the dirt wherever it resides. THEN it can be put
into
suspension. If it were not for the water, there would be no
cleaning, and nothing to suspend.

Nonsense. Almost any carrier liquid will do, such as alcohols,
oils,
HCFC's, ethers, DMSO, and many others. Surely you have heard of
"dry cleaning"; no water used.


That merely slops the *** around, and when it is dry, the *** is
still on your hands.

Why do you seem to think that there is no such thing as a vapor phase
degreaser either? They are readily available and do the job as
advertised.

Dumb fucktard. I KNOW what a vapor phase degreaser is. It is the
LarkinTard that has one, but doesn't know how to use it correctly.

Dumb me. We pick-and-place boards, run them through the Essemtec
reflow oven, wash them in the Baron Blakeslee cleaner, and sell $4M a
year of them for somewhat more than they cost to manufacture. Now
DampMatter informs me (over and over) that we're doing it all wrong,
because we're actually allowing the solvent to come into contact with
the boards. I am *so* ashamed, and I suppose we should give all the
money back.

OK, all that's settled. But why did B-B equip our machine with a pump
and a spray wand? Was that just a mistake on their part? Did they send
us a turtle washer by mistake?

John

They ALL have spray wands, you fucking idiot.

You hang the board OVER the vapor.

The spray wand gets the under chip/component media fee. You don't DIP
the fucking thing in the nasty solvent, DIP ASS!

Hey, we're making progress! We now have Prongie's permission to
actually get the board wet with the solvent, and not merely hang them
in vapor.

Now please explain why we shouldn't immerse the boards in the tank of
boiling solvent that's full of expensive defluxing agent, using the
basket that came with the machine, for immersing boards in that same
tank?

John


VAPOR PHASE, Johnny... VAPOR PHASE. The machine is MEANT for cleaning
using the VAPOR cloud above the tank of boiling solvent. And that IS the
case, regardless of your fucked up physics logic stating that it would
not work.

Why should we let words restrict what we can do?


Get it through your thick skull, you retarded ***. That is WHY it is
called a VAPOR PHASE degreaser.

I should let you convince the Baron Blakeslee rep, the guy who set
this all up, that he's a retarded ***, too. Want his phone number?

Even in your precious cage, the vapor would be present, and is used
merely to hold the boards, and allow for a slow extraction, which BTW,
instantly incurs drying of the solvent.

So you have changed your mind about using the spray wand? Fickle, you
are.

THAT is how it is meant to be used. Only your and your fucked in the
head production tech's mind is the cage's purpose for immersion.

Gosh, we've apparently made a $40 million mistake.

John


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