Re: OT: Eudora a good alternative to Thunderbird?



On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:23:38 -0700, Joerg
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John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:31:23 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


John Larkin wrote:


On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:52:01 +0200, David Brown
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Joerg wrote:


Hello Folks,

After the umpteenth freeze where I can't get any email to the laptop
I've had it with Thunderbird. Mozilla was good and a lot less buggy but
it ain't now more, only the huge SeaMonkey version.

Eudora now says on the site that the no-nagware version (paid) is no
longer being sold. Does this mean Eudora may be going away?


Eudora are planning on releasing their code as open source - I don't
know how far they've got with the plan, but hopefully it will still be
around as an alternative (I like Thunderbird myself, and have never had
a crash or hang despite pushing it hard - but it's always good to have a
variety available).

Have you any idea what causes your problems with Thunderbird? My
company is pretty much standardised on it, and most people use it at
work and at home. We use an IMAP server - I have not used it for POP3 -
which may make a difference.


We use it for POP3, many copies, work and home, and it's been very
reliable, as reliable as anything running under Windows can reasonably
be.

I had a bad disk block once, and got the sort of thing Joerg is
seeing. Dell/Maxtor junk. No problems, no crashes since going
HP/Fujitsu/Raid under XP.


It doesn't grind on the disk at all. Just sits there doing nothing.



One should occasionally do a database cleanup: File, Compact Folders.


Done that. The inbox is only 64MB, most of that being CAD file
attachments like Gerbers.


You might try shutting Tbird down, then copying (not moving... right
click!) your Tbird PROFILES folder to some dummy destination, maybe on
another drive. If that hangs, you have a bad disk block or the file
system is tied in knots.


Copied that from a backup. No change.

It's installing a new version right now (cause I can't import stuff into
Outlook). Let's see. I believe this is a serious bug, maybe fixed by
now. Several people on the web complained about the same thing and there
was never any definitive answer as to the root cause. Just maybe and
could be. Makes me think nobody really knows. It also happened a while
ago on another machine but that was right after install so I ditched TB
and installed an old Mozilla copy. Made the problem go away. That might
also be an option here if I can convert the data.


Joerg,

Are you by chance running Mcafee anti-virus?? They released an
upgrade last Friday that seemed to prevent my Thunderbird client from
receiving from a POP server. Hitting "Get Mail" twice would give your
exact symptoms (easy enough to do when there is no response the first
time!). Monday they released another update that fixed the problem.
Both updates required a re-boot of WinXP.

Outlook still worked, as did Eudora.

Just a thought....

E. Tappert
.



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