Re: OT: Eudora a good alternative to Thunderbird?

Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:19:09 -0700, JosephKK
<joseph_barrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
sci.electronics.design:

David Brown wrote:

Joerg wrote:

Ecnerwal wrote:

In article <zibPi.1418$Pv2.1280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


AFAIK no spam filter and that's really important these days.


Your mail service provider might provide some - Mine used to
provide a great mode where they would flag stuff they thought
was spam, and send it all downstream where I could filter it.
Now it's either no filtering, or filtering on their system -
they dumbed it down. Still, I find that a bunch of positive
filters (pull off mail from real people you commonly email)
and negative filters (the various popular spam
words/misspellings) does a pretty good job on spam. I've used
Eudora for decades, and never got into the paid version with
spam filter (nor the ad version until after they stopped
running ads, though it still brings up an annoying gray
square).

Can't do that, I get mail from several servers into one.

You can use a local spam filter pop3 proxy - popfile is, I
believe, one
of the most popular. I used it before I started using
spamassasin on our server.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

If you have a Linux box available, I'd recommend setting up a
proper mail server - dovecot is easy, and you can use fetchmail
to collect
email from a variety of pop3 boxes. That way you have your
email on a secure system, available from any email client you
want on any PC (via
IMAP). When your client OS goes bonkers, or you find a new
email program you like, or want to access the same email from a
different machine, you have no problem.

Release (if it ever happens) of the open source equivalent
seems to be glacial.

Won't do much good if it then just sits there or gets folded
into Thunderbird.

I doubt if Eudora will get merged with Thunderbird, but I also
doubt
that it will see much progress as open source. You can't expect
a development community to form around a product just by posting
a link to the code on your website - Qualcomm are going to have
to work much
harder if they want to get some developer momentum behind it.
At the moment, most people interested in working with open
source email programs are looking at Thunderbird, Evolution, or
KMail - developers will need a good reason to start working with
Eudora.

What I've seen of spam filters on other people's systems, and
when exploring other mailers and not liking them enough to
change has not been impressive.

Mozilla (the old integrated suite) works very well with its
spam filters. But they've discontinued that a long time ago and
like with any good software I keep hanging on. IME changing
software when it wasn't absolutely needed just brought extra
fluff and grief. Just like with this Thunderbird.

Thunderbird works fine for most people - I don't know what's
causing your problems, but clearly it's not a common issue
(since you found nothing in your searches).

I did find a lot but only people having the very same problem, no
solutions taht worked. After I uninstalled Norton it now works.
Sort of, still sluggish.

Norton is a virus/trojan. It does not uninstall cleanly let alone
completely either. You need a registry cleaner. Check
www.mvps.org and dts-l.org for worthwhile ones.

There is a Symantec-specific uninstaller for corrupt installations.
If you're having problems go to their website to get it.


One also should not forget that a company that would secretly do
stuff causing damage down the road can be held liable in court. At
least in the US. Typically that ends in a class action and that's
the absolute nightmare for any corporation. So they can't do
anything really bad.


You need some complaints, someone with the savvy to make a case that a
jury can understand, and some technical experts to respond to the
defense, and some luck. Oh, and a lawyer willing to go way out on a
financial and reputation limb for a small chance of a large payoff.

.

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