Re: OT: Eudora a good alternative to Thunderbird?

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JosephKK wrote:
Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
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John Devereux wrote:

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:


Joerg wrote:


Hello Folks,

After the umpteenth freeze where I can't get any email to the
laptop I've had it with Thunderbird. Mozilla was good and a lot
less buggy but it ain't now more, only the huge SeaMonkey
version.

Eudora now says on the site that the no-nagware version (paid)
is no longer being sold. Does this mean Eudora may be going
away?

Ok guys, found it out. There was an older Norton version on
there, hasn't been update since 2006 so it hasn't changed. Beats
me how that could suddenly interfere. It had to actually be
hosed off the harddrive in its entirety, then a reboot, before
Thunderbird would work.

Good old norton - you can always rely on it to stuff up your
machine.

AV programs are incredibly intrusive. I suppose they have to be.
They probably intercept every operation on a file or network
packet.

What really irks me about them is that they are notoriously
disobedient. When you turn a firewall function off I expect it to
be OFF. It wasn't. McAfee on another PC is the same. It's going to
be outta here one of these days but first I have to find something
better. Tried out AVG but that has a rather huge footprint, slows
things down too much. Anyone know about the AOL version? Or does
MS provide something good enough?

Browsers have some similar "not so nice" traits. For example, all
of the ones I've ever used (except Mosaic!) do not offer much
authority over the STOP button. When that is pressed I expect a
web transfer to terminate this instant. Nope, don't work. Often it
has to be CTRL-ALT-DEL, works every single time. IMHO Mosaic was
the best browser ever, to this day unsurpassed in robustness and
user authority.


Personally, i prefer clam av / clamwin. It does not get in the way
much, and the up to date properties is very good. If you don't
mind
doing a little manual scheduling, it can be very nice. It only
scans
what and when you tell it to. But the detect and cleanup rate is
better than norton or macafee.


However, AFAIK it doesn't monitor inbound web traffic so you've got
to keep a firewall in addition. I just learned from Dell that the
Windows version may be useless in a network situation. Turn it on
and you can't see any server or other PC. Oh man, it seems it can't
even discern between a legitimately requested transfer _by_ the PC
on which it resides versus an outside request.

Now I wish there was another browser of the quality level of Mosaic
where a hanging or rogue transfer from a web site can be stopped
using, duh!, the STOP button instead of CRTL-ALT-DEL.


Fortunately there at least two free or inexpensive firewalls (Kerio
and ZoneAlarm) that install and uninstall clean, work and fully
support networking your computers. Of course at the SOHO level you
should already have a hardware router / firewall.

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