Re: OT: Eudora a good alternative to Thunderbird?

Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
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JosephKK wrote:
Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:19:09 -0700, JosephKK
<joseph_barrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Joerg notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
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David Brown wrote:

Joerg wrote:

Ecnerwal wrote:

In article <zibPi.1418$Pv2.1280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


AFAIK no spam filter and that's really important these
days.

Your mail service provider might provide some - Mine used to
provide a great mode where they would flag stuff they
thought was spam, and send it all downstream where I could
filter it. Now it's either no filtering, or filtering on
their system - they dumbed it down. Still, I find that a
bunch of positive filters (pull off mail from real people
you commonly email) and negative filters (the various
popular spam words/misspellings) does a pretty good job on
spam. I've used Eudora for decades, and never got into the
paid version with spam filter (nor the ad version until
after they stopped running ads, though it still brings up an
annoying gray square).

Can't do that, I get mail from several servers into one.

You can use a local spam filter pop3 proxy - popfile is, I
believe, one
of the most popular. I used it before I started using
spamassasin on our server.

http://popfile.sourceforge.net/

If you have a Linux box available, I'd recommend setting up a
proper mail server - dovecot is easy, and you can use
fetchmail to collect
email from a variety of pop3 boxes. That way you have your
email on a secure system, available from any email client you
want on any PC (via
IMAP). When your client OS goes bonkers, or you find a new
email program you like, or want to access the same email from
a different machine, you have no problem.

Release (if it ever happens) of the open source equivalent
seems to be glacial.

Won't do much good if it then just sits there or gets folded
into Thunderbird.

I doubt if Eudora will get merged with Thunderbird, but I also
doubt
that it will see much progress as open source. You can't
expect a development community to form around a product just
by posting a link to the code on your website - Qualcomm are
going to have to work much
harder if they want to get some developer momentum behind it.
At the moment, most people interested in working with open
source email programs are looking at Thunderbird, Evolution,
or KMail - developers will need a good reason to start working
with Eudora.

What I've seen of spam filters on other people's systems,
and when exploring other mailers and not liking them enough
to change has not been impressive.

Mozilla (the old integrated suite) works very well with its
spam filters. But they've discontinued that a long time ago
and like with any good software I keep hanging on. IME
changing software when it wasn't absolutely needed just
brought extra fluff and grief. Just like with this
Thunderbird.

Thunderbird works fine for most people - I don't know what's
causing your problems, but clearly it's not a common issue
(since you found nothing in your searches).
I did find a lot but only people having the very same problem,
no solutions taht worked. After I uninstalled Norton it now
works. Sort of, still sluggish.

Norton is a virus/trojan. It does not uninstall cleanly let
alone
completely either. You need a registry cleaner. Check
www.mvps.org and dts-l.org for worthwhile ones.
There is a Symantec-specific uninstaller for corrupt
installations. If you're having problems go to their website to
get it.

One also should not forget that a company that would secretly do
stuff causing damage down the road can be held liable in court. At
least in the US. Typically that ends in a class action and that's
the absolute nightmare for any corporation. So they can't do
anything really bad.


You need some complaints, someone with the savvy to make a case
that a jury can understand, and some technical experts to respond
to the
defense, and some luck. Oh, and a lawyer willing to go way out on
a financial and reputation limb for a small chance of a large
payoff.


That would not be a problem. But I am not the guy who likes to
instigate this. Unless a company does me seriously wrong.


Precisely, the decision to release comes just as soon as the expected
pain level from the bugs will not likely result in legal action.

.

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