Re: Which university produces good analog EEs?

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Oh yeah, the lack of soldering skills. That would require
the student to have actually built something. These
younguns just know how to program. You've seen the posts
where a pic uP is the solutions to any
task, not a state machine comprised of memory elements and
combinational logic.
For the vast majority of applications, a uC is the right
solution, certainly over the discrete implementation you
suggest.
--
Keith
The problem with using a uP in such projects is if you are
designing a chip, you need to know how to do it with gates as
often that is the smallest and lowest power solution. The
ability to hand craft logic is disappearing rapidly, but is
very much needed in mixed mode chips which are not done on fine
geometry processes.
If you're designing a chip you aren't going to be using a PIC,
now
are you? Hint: you won't likely be using "memory elements" and
combinatorial logic to build state machines either.

--
Keith
You don't get it.
It is not I who is dense around here.

The schools are teaching pic solutions, not the
ability to design state machines. Your hint doesn't make much
sense. Memory elements are part of the state machine design. You
need a place to store the present state.
Discrete memory + logic is a piss-poor way to design state machines
these days. We weren't talking about integrated designs.


It is indeed a poor way to design one, state diagrams and state charts
are much better methods. Discrete logic and memory may well be the
best implementation, however.


It may be the best way. Example why: Our pellet stove turned itself on (!) in the middle of summer. Guess the folks who programmed its 8051 must have goofed up. If I have my druthers (and some time) I'll rip it all out and design it around some 74HC chips.

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Regards, Joerg

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