Re: anti robbery fence

C.Klaus C*k°l°a°u°s#m°l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx posted to
sci.electronics.design:

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:00:21 -0800 (PST), mrdarrett@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

On Nov 15, 9:32 am, C.Klaus <C*k°l°a°u°s#m°l...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Movement sensored wireless video cameras i hear are cheap nowdays.
Connected to home security high pitch alarms may help give early
warning systems.
Maybe signposts with some of them around the home doors can help
discourage rogues from an attack. Recording their faces by such
systems may keep them away. Or possibly better nothing there.

Some of the valuables these people take are my vehicles,
motorcycle, computers and other basic electronic stuff, cameras
and so on . I cannot put these in a bank vault. There is no actual
insurance
policies in the country where i will relocate, it is in a
developing
country. From what they tell me the Insurance give you a small
fraction of the cost of what you lose over there.
A lot of sun and nice vegetation over there, very little pollution
but you pay a price for those commodities.

Moreover then theft attacks can be launched anytime even during
the
day.

Klaus

<LawrenceSM...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <loqoj3pbsibrg1cj6si63jiipk7a60v...@xxxxxxx>,
C.Klaus <C*k?l?a?u?s#...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I would like to project a fence with a high voltage to keep of
thieves
from my land and house plus valuables. Is anyone here capable
of providing suitable input for this project. Minimum or
maximum voltages
precautions, such as. Kind of transformer etc. Note I don't
want to
harm much anyone because it would be dangerous and against the
law. We don't have electric chair here but it is frowned upon
by the law. Something similar to cattle protection circuit on
fences you know a slight shock to keep the diots away.

Before you waste your money, check local ordinances and codes.
You might not be permitted to build any such thing, in which case
you might want to move, first - it's a lot cheaper than paying to
build a fence, and then paying fines for having built it, and
then having to take it down again.

Won't make a bit of difference to professional thieves, anyway.

Describe and build it ONLY as an electric fence to keep animals
in, and borrow an animal from time to time if need be to maintain
that idea as valid. The right animal(s) might make some
impression on thieves, but try to stick to ones that make an
impression on thieves by making a fuss when disturbed (such as
geese), as opposed to ones that pose more of a threat to your own
family, since your own family will be around them all the time,
and professional thieves will just drug or kill "attack animals"
before looting your house.

Use standard animal fence electrics, and standard animal electric
fence warning signs for humans. The animal fence chargers are
already designed to be "safe" for humans. No self-built unit will
be acceptable to your insurance company or local officials, so
don't try to build the fence charger yourself.

Practically speaking, put your valuables in a bank vault, and
relocate to a less crime prone area if that does not solve your
feeling that you need to put up an electric fence for robbers.


Which country? In the Philippines some houses have concrete gates
with broken bottle glass shards embedded, to discourage wall
scalers.

I was amused by a story there of thieves breaking into a cell phone
tower, to steal solar panels.

If no small children are present, consider bringing some large dogs.

What are the local laws? Even ignoring those, if the thief dies,
his
family might try to kill you in revenge. That's one of the down
sides of third-world countries.

Remove the battery from the vehicle to discourage thieves...

Good luck,

Michael

Good advice Michael. No young children will be living with me so the
dogs can do. But I remember in the past I had two ferocious German
shepherd dogs and they were always fighting and I was many times in
the middle trying to seperate them with a steel bar because they
were almost killing each other. One day one of them during a fight
tore
into the neck of the other with its teeth and blood came out like a
fountain and it died shortly after.
Having more then 1 ferocious dog at home is more dangerous for the
dogs.

Klaus

1. not if they are trained properly.
1.1 develop the expertise to train them yourself.
1.2 retrain any adult dogs you acquire.
2. sterilized male-female pairs can be very effective, without having
having to worry about raising the pups.
3. as you found out the hard way, destroy dogs that you cannot
control.
4. goats can be very effective as well.

.

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