Re: Former Anti-Nuclear Activist Does A 180

On Dec 10, 4:54 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:29:01 -0800 (PST)) it happened
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote in
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If you compare the number of death in coal mines every year,
to the number of death due to nuclear power, then it seems to me
nuclear is the way to go, in spite of the occasional Tjernobyl.
I am not to sure about people working in uranium mines though,
unprotected handling yellow cake, but that could be fixed.
Third world life forms are still cheap it seems.

Nuclear waste is still dangerous after a few hundred thousand years -
there are some proposals for fusing it into an inert glass (CSIRO's
synroc) but nobody is really happy with any of the solutions posed so
far.

It's probably going to be cheaper to generate power in coal fired
power stations and bury the CO2 produced, and it is a much less risky
route to follow. Extracting the CO2 from power staion exhaust gases
and burying it is probably going to double the price of the
electricity produced, but that's still cheaper than full-life costed
nuclear power.

I'v been pro nu-cu-lear always....
But I do not think CO2 causes global warming, or even we.

Then you need to learn a bit more about the subject.

Arrogant as always, but OK, well I *do* know a bit more about the subject.

But not enough.

Nu-cu-lear waste can be stored deeply underground in drill holes IIRC.

Except that people have been talking about it for fifty years, and
haven't got around to it yet. Despite all the claims, no individual
site ever turns out to be a really safe place to dump high level waste
for the next few hundred thousand years.

Storing CO2 makes no sense,

Why? The already CO2 in oil fields has been there for a long time -
anything we add will presumably stay there as long.

Al Gore is a lier and fraud,

Its "liar" and - while he is a politician - the example you give
isn't exactly convincing.

a judge

who probably knows less about global warming than you do

has decided his 'educational work' for schools was wrong on about 9 points,

Questionable, which isn't quite the same thing

one of those is that CO2 preceded global warming (it is the other way around).

You are confused. Milankovitch changes in the earth's orientation to
and distance from the sun produce small changes in the global
temperature which are follwed and amplified by the CO2 coming out of
solution in the oceans when they warm up, or going into solution in
the iceans when they cool down.

http://epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.html

Releasing lots more CO2 into the atmosphere warms up the earth
directly. You are comparing apples and pears and drawing an erroneous
conclusion.


http://www.metro.co.uk/news/climatewatch/article.html?in_article_id=6...

Why they give a fraud the Nobel?

Henry Kissinger got the Peace Prize, and Milton Friedman got the
Economics Prize

Politics as usual, it is exactly what puts the brakes on real science.

The global warming hype is based on real science - Gore may be over-
selling the story, but the science behind the story is unassailable -
at least by honest arguments.

Gore sells with fear for climate change, as Bush sells with fear for alien (nations) attacks.
If they had given him a Nobel for salesmanship I would have understood.

The fact that Gore is selling global warming doesn't say anything
about the reality of global warming, any more than Dubbya's selling
his version of democracy makes democracy a bad thing.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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