Re: what a mess



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John Larkin wrote:
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Ain't nothing like the storms a couple weeks ago when the tool du jour out here was the chain saw.

This year we bought five cords of wood which I thought would really be overkill. It's dwindling fast, the stove runs on 100% duty cycle since early December :-(
Yikes! You do use a lot of wood! It's been a pretty mild winter here. Only once below zero, I think. Good thing, since I have electric heat.

Plus one ton of pellets. Used to be two cord plus 1/2 a ton of pellets, same house. Global warming sure ain't happening here.
Are you heating the entire state? Does the governator know you're the state's single largest contributor to global warming (forgetting the CO2)?

10 miles up into the mountains people are now up to almost 10 (!) cords. It simply gets colder every winter. But: Wood is CO2 neutral. Any other energy source except ranch methane nuclear is not.
OW! No one I know used that much wood in VT!
Oh, and it's really pouring right now.
We got about an inch of snow today. No big deal, but we went through a bunch of windshield washing fluid (looking at houses).

Find one with a big honking wood stove. Any other fuel has the potential to cause a huge slurping sound in your bank account. Some people on electric heat out here pay as much in a month as a season's worth of firewood costs us.
Pretty much everything is gas around here. They told me the apartment was electric because the gas doesn't run this far out. Last week I got to wondering about the guy's honesty. The houses he builds right around the corner are all gas.

Electricity ties you to a monopoly. Not a good idea IMHO.
Monopoly, yes, It's a regulated monopoly though. Wood and pellets are good as long a everyone else doesn't use them. A friend was going to buy a corn stove this year. I don't know, but I suspect he changed his mind. ;-) Even wood is expensive, unless you have a source and are willing to do a *lot* of work. Even a few years ago ('02, I'm going to guess) I paid $180/cord, though I only used 1/4 cord a year, tops.

Regulation doesn't help much IMHO. Classic example, yesterday: Our Missy Bell wants to raise some services by a wee bit. A wee bit would be around 200%. I guess they must have their lobby activities very well lined up. Then we got a notice from the local water works, also yesterday, that a hefty surcharge (a.k.a. tax) is contemplated. Great!

Depends on who and how many they piss off. I doubt many care much what land-line service costs these days. ;-)


A lot of folks out here do care. Cell phone service is spotty, cable ain't available everywhere.


Remember the tax for the Spanish-American war we paid although the war was over 100 years ago? The instant it was abolished Missy Bell quadrupled some fee. Took it right back out of the pockets, and then some.

It's not like there aren't other choices.


Like what? Ok, I happen to live in an area that has DSL. An area that pretty much ends about a mile from here. And (tada!) Missy Bell owns that as well. Of course.

Friday I had the "pleasure" to talk at length with an engineer about 1500 miles from here via VoIP. Corporate network, the expensive stuff, not just some supermarket phone on a PC. The line quality was the usual, horrible. Sure the bandwidth is excellent but the audio is often all fragmented. That sure ain't no alternative.


Nah, we'll stay independent. Last spring we bought almond at $210/cord. The local guys wanted up to $300/cord for oak. No way. It's pathetic, we have a big truck coming up about 60 miles on the freeway to deliver our wood.

Yikes! I could heat with greenbacks for that.


$210/cord is an absolute bargain out here. Energy costs tend to be rather inflationary these days. Propane goes up 25% -> Wood goes up 25%. But it sure beats paying north of $3/gallon for propane. Even heating with regular unleaded from the gas station would be cheaper because it packs more BTUs.

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