Re: Disobeying jet engines - why?



On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:21:04 GMT
Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:08:01 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
<4f41q3hq25ra5ld18dfa5jvlcnkge8klnc@xxxxxxx>:

Sometimes the right thing to do is to buy the correct development tool
for the job. Anyone who attempts to write a database from scratch for a
PC wants their head examining (and that was true almost from the early
days of CPM). Same with anyone who attempts to debug embedded code in a
hard RT environment without using the right tools.

Umm, I should have my head examined. Twice.

John

Hey, John, I agree.
Did not want to comment at first, and that is especially about debug.
If you know your code, then you need no debugger! HIGH LEVEL LANGUAGES
LIKE HEX or ASM need no debugger (I ain't kidding).
Most I will do in huge programs in C (C++ is not really a language but
a disability, Stroussup did not know how to program, and that is why he
created C++), is add some printf() statements.

To understand C++, you have to be a "real programmer", or a physicist.

In ASM, or programming in binary, you should know what happens from what
you get. Honestly last time I used a debugger was in 1983? They tried to

True, but you can do same things with C as in ASM. A debugger is a good
friend, if your code is hell complicated. ASM is really simple. It is good for
simple things. But I wouldn't use ASM to implement floating point
arithmetic.

sell me all sorts of stuff, ICE, hell, you should be able to understand
what is going on from what happens.
Many people seem to have an attention span of about ehhh 7 minutes?
So they cannot follow any code, especially as the spaghetti they wrote
probably has that knot after 7 minutes, then they spend hours looking in a
debugger, to find that bit that flipped, which it should have, as they
programmed the knot.

<space for flames>
<water>
<petrol>

LOL
So lets see , somebody is going to byte.





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Levente <leventelist@xxxxxxxxx>
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