Re: Design and Social Consciousness

On Feb 4, 1:25 am, m...@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
This all sounds fine, until you get to the bit about free trade.

Back when the U.K. and the U.S. had third world economies they didn't
believe in free trade, but once they'd developed serious manufacturing
capacity and saturated their domestic markets, they were suddenly
converted to free trade so they could sell off their excess production
to less developed economies whose own manufacturers hadn't built up
their production capacity enough to be able to exploit economies of
scale to the same extent.

Nowadays, the U.S. and the E.U. claim to believe in  free trade in
manufactured products, but keep on subsidising their famers and
dumping the excess agricultural production on the world market.

You are just parrotting economics for republicans, which is based on
long exploded theories whose sole virtue is that their errors justify
the sorts of economic practices that suit the people who have already
made lots of money, and who want to maintain the existing inequitable
distribution of capital and income.

Modern European socialism actually works better than U.S.-style
minimal-taxation capitalism, but republican economists are good at
finding misleading statistics that purport to show otherwise.

If restricting trade between nations is desirable, would it also
be desirable to restrict trade between US states?  How about trade
restictions between San Francisco and San Jose?  Or between your
street and all the other streets?

If, as I suspect, you do not favor trade restrictions in those
other cases but do favor trade restrictions between nations,
I would be most interested in your logic.

Check out the European Union - the quid pro quo for less developed
countries joining the union are development funds from the richer
states. Ireland comes to mind - it is now doing well and expects to
become a nett contribuotr to the EU budget in a few years ...

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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