Re: OT: A premonition

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:03:50 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim Yanik wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:47ACF2C5.A6A7644E@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:

bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:

On Feb 8, 2:18 am, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I've had a sort of premonition - pretty much whoever wins the
"election", I see the country following the path of all of the
empires throughout history - after about 200 years, they collapse
from corruption within, and get taken over by the hungry barbarians
at the door.

But, this time it's going to be different, because the hungry
barbarians have Wi-Fi. ;-)

You are probably being overly pessimistic - your current Republican
administration has managed to get your country to the verge of
collapse by a combination of ignorance and corruption, but they
haven't yet managed to get it over the edge. Amongst your surviving
crop of presidential candidates, only Mike Huckabee is ignorant and
ill-informed enough to follow Dubbya's road to ruin, and he doesn't
look to have any chance of getting his party's nomination.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Either way, this country is never going to be what it used to be. You
folks in the EU economic areas (as well as Asian, South American,
Middle East and others) should plan on making your fortunes without
depending on the USA market.


Europe is not going to last as long as the US;they are going to surrender
to the Islamics long before we do.

I think Europe has a far better chance of getting the Islamic
Fundamentalists under control than we do with the Christians. The fact
that the EU even acknowledges a problem might exist puts hem way ahead
of the USA.

The Muslim population in the US is around 1%. Most of Europe is around
5%, with France close to 10. Muslims seem to assimilate into the US
very well; I know of no Muslim ghettos in the US like they have in
France. Muslims in the US are, on average, better educated and
wealthier than the general population.

That's a good point. We are further away from the middle east and north
Africa where many emigrate from. It takes a greater effort to get here,
which acts as a filter, passing only the better educated through. These
tend not to have the easily led characteristics of their less educated
brethren.

I see no need to get Christian or Muslim fundamantalists "under
control" in the US.

On the other hand, there is no such filter on Christian fundamentalists
getting into this country. They are here already, living just down the
road in the trailer parks. They are easily led and warrant careful
scrutiny.

Unfortunately, in Europe, government control of religion is well
established. You don't open a church or mosque without permission. In
France, the government reserves the right to approve priests, ministers.
imams, etc. In this country, that is constitutionally prohibited.
There's nothing we can do until they pull on the white hoods and lynch
somebody.

John

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