Re: Airbus pic

On Feb 10, 9:44 pm, T <nospam.k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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krw wrote:

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Boeing canned Stoneciepher for writing a few love letters to his
girlfriend. They claimed it might have been an 'embarrasement'.. There
are far more embarrasing things going on over there than Harry's love
life. Things that can have a material effect on shareholder value. I
dumped my stock some time ago.

More like they thought it could put them in the middle of a
harassment suit.  He violated the rules, bye.  ...if that's the
whole story.

Back when I was at Boeing (when Stoneciepher was still there) they had
no rules prohibiting 'fraternization' between employees, unless it
became unwanted. If they did, they'd have to fire a significant portion
of their workforce. In fact it was a den of nepotism.

Using their facilities and time?  I doubt they smiled upon it and
told the kiddies to have fun, but be safe.

In fact, they did have a few cases where employees were paying far too
much attention to their co-workers consensual personal affairs.
Management informed them that their display of moral indignation could
produce the very 'hostile work environment' prohibited by policy.

That one goes both ways.  It depends on circumstances, certainly.

In an interesting twist, one of the people expressing disapproval turned
out to be gay and pissed off that the subject of his affection was
dating women.

Yes, that could easily go as far as harassment.

Boeing actually has a pretty enlightened policy regarding employee
behavior when its not driven by company politics.

Again, on company time and with company resources?  BTW, when is any
thing in a large corporation not driven by company politics. ;-)

They have a pretty reasonable policy with regard to that as well.

You could surf the 'net and use e-mail for non company purposes on
breaks.

Different issue.  My PPOE had a similar view of the Internet.  It
was available for "personal" use, but we were *strongly* reminded
that use of their resources was at management discretion and that we
were representing the company when doing so (I.e. no visiting
playboy.com).  They excused this use because they were in the
computing business and the Internet was a big part of the industry.

When I worked for one state office in particular we had the same basic
policy and it was supposed to apply to everyone. We proxied all web
traffic and we did monitor the logs.

One day I noted our Chief of Staff liked to look for big, black and
beautiful women. Then he'd look for hotels/motels, etc. In addition he'd
visit some rather questionable porn sites.

I brought this to the attention of the director of my unit and was told
that we do nothing about it. Huh?

Another systems guy joined our team and noticed the same behavior,
brought it up and was told the same thing.

Oh yes, I took all the proxy logs with me on a couple CD's when I left
that place.

You have just admitted to having committed a felony.
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