Re: OT: Why I have decided to stop watching F1

Jan Panteltje wrote:

Why I have decided to stop watching F1 been watching it for years.
Now they changed the rules so electronics is the cars is largely disabled.

Good (I explain later).

On top of that, the basic electronics that everyone has to use, is made by
Mercedes, who won of course.

So there's something wrong with using a base that fits the bill, evolved into the system today from years of development? A monopoly perhaps, but if it does the job, who cares?
Either way, have you even seen what the system can do? It's quite extensive and impressive.

Not like the Hoosier class of racing. A class of racing designed completely around one brand of tyre. An excessively crappy tyre at that. We were speculating they invented the class just so they can get rid of the tyres.

In the old days you could read commercials like :
'The greatest improvements in our cars come from our success in F1 racing'.

Technically true, but it takes forever, and the technology is refined, adjusted and knobbled to suit the el-cheapo domestic market. The fact that it might appear on the upper class Merc first is irrelevant - it's such a small niche it doesn't count.

The important thing is it needs to work well enough, and be cheap enough, that Joe Average will want to pay for the feature in his family class vehicle.
By that stage, the only thing that has filtered down from F1 is the mere basic idea.

Now they even took out traction control, ABS, what not.

They've been taking advantages away since the start. If they didn't slow them down, they'd be killing themselves. If you pay attention, you'll note that speeds are gradually increasing, even though the vehicle no longer has the electronic advantages it once has. Sure the records of a few years ago have not been elapsed (yet?), but they're getting closer.

They're doing what everyone else does, once the goalposts have moved, you adjust your game to suit.

It's actually a must for the sport in general, because as you get faster, overtaking opportunities are diminished, with an increase in crash risk.

If you want to watch people getting injured, watch a boxing match. Most of them have the reputation of having only four brain cells. Not because they came to the game like that, but after all the head injuries.

Into car crashes instead? I'm sure there are plenty of smash-up-derbys in your state that specialise in that area.

And of course this causes dangerous situations to the drivers.

Much like higher speeds were killing them in the first place?

I want to see a competition of the best man + machine combinations,

Indy. There's enough boost in those engines to blow them to buggery. Also, if you were keeping attention, you'll note that F1 is still faster, even though they use naturally aspirated engines AND some of their electronic advantages disabled too.
It all comes down to how much money you want to spend. There is a LOT of technology in F1 that isn't apparent to the untrained eye, let alone the behind the scenes stuff you'll never see.

else could as well be a bicycle race.

Already lots of those are done around the world if you're interested.

Electronics these day is an integral part of cars.

Only because it's the only way to comply with exhaust emissions. Otherwise all cars would be still running carbies. If it can be done cheaper with electronics, it will. Nothing to do with anything else other than features verses cost, and if the end user will want to pay for it.

Away with the current F1, it is a joke, has no value.

Pick up your remote control, and switch to boxing, cycling, or smash up derbys. Your choice.
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