Re: SPAM is killing this newsgroup!




"JosephKK" <quiettechblue@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:55:50 -0500, "Anthony Fremont"
<nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

MM wrote:
Is there a way to protect this group? I wonder why some groups
haven't been affected by spam yet while others are under attack..

/MM

In this particular case, I believe it's because a couple of regulars
couldn't resist playing with kooks. That attracted attention of some
computer savvy twats and then the SPAM came. You know the rest. It
really
sucks, doesn't it?


Nope. I think you have misread your history.

First came ARPAnet, then MILnet, NFSnet and a couple of others, then
USENET and the rest of the precursors of internet. Next came WAIS,
gopher, etc. Then Hypertext. Then HTTP, Mosaic, and WWW. Then the
internet was opened to commercial access. In a few years email spam
appeared. Then Google bought the usenet archives and went into the
usenet provider business. Then the various free email accounts. Then
the various ploys to stop robots from getting accounts. Then the
spammers found google groups and understood each active group
represented hundreds to thousands of possible viewers. Thus the
spammers have found a way to make the most awesome distributed
hypercomputer (composed of humans trying to get some more cash) help
them defeat all the security methods of all the free account
providers. Thus our current problems.

IMNSHO


I've been off UseNet for a while, when I left it was up to its knees in SPAM
now its up to its eyebrows. Consensus from the real people still trying to
use these groups is that its mostly Google Groups based SpamBots and maybe a
few odd trolls.

The problem is that most are trying to fight the internet with the internet.
We can't really beat the trolls, just starve them as much as possible but
Google should have a solution. Note that there has always been a lot of
good press about google (excepting the china incedent) and now that their
stock has softened they will be susceptable to bad press.

All we need is for some network news program to play a story about how spam
is killing Usenet and how Google Groups in particular is a major source of
the problem. I would expect, that a week after that story airs, there will
be noticable differences, IMO.

OTOH, if everyone dedicates themselves to complaining directly to Google,
they will eventually notice the volume of complaints and react albeit more
slowly than if the pressure came from the press.


.



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