Re: Oh my Gawd! Carly!

On Fri, 9 May 2008 08:06:06 -0700 (PDT), MooseFET <kensmith@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On May 8, 10:19 pm, JosephKK <quiettechb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 7 May 2008 06:12:05 -0700 (PDT), MooseFET <kensm...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On May 6, 10:42 pm, JosephKK <quiettechb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 6 May 2008 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT), MooseFET <kensm...@xxxxxxxxx>
[.....]

I didn't mean that the economy "provided" without you working. I
meant that it gave you the chance. Without the healthy economy, you
wouldn't have been able to get the job.

WTF? Suddenly you admit that at least some of it may have been my
effort?

So long as you don't claim all of it was your effort, I have made my
point about others haing created the advanage for you.

Will you please explain how someone else can put feelings, opinions,
data, facts, knowledge, understanding into my mind without my active
cooperation / work? The provision opportunity is not to be confused
with putting forth the effort to make something of it.

Simply because an opportunity exists, normally does not mean that any
success can occur without considerable input from self. Think it
through.



You were doing the inverse in your claims earlier. Not you admit that
the environment was created by others so I don't have any further
disagreement with you in this area.

I do not think so. You are / have been disparaging all the work i did
to get where i am. If i had not busted my hump i could not have
gotten where i am today. Others seem to think it should "just come to
them". It will not.





Now let's get to the root, way too many of today's kids will
not put any effort into getting an education.

but....but....but people have been saying that forever.

No they have not. It has appeared on and off over millennia. You do
not like the fact that is true so you deny it.

Please state the period that lasted more than 24 hours when the older
folks didn't complain about the yonger ones. You have made a claim of
something being a "fact" that I firmly believe to be false. This is
not denial it is disputing your claim.


There is no
evidence of a long term decline.

Yes there is. it is evidenced in the longtime decline of various test
scores.

Every generation thinks the next is
lazy.

False again, see second above.



How old is the song "kids what's the matter with kids these days"?

There are lazy people in every generation. They are obvious because
they stand out. The ones who are busily getting an education are too
busy to be at the mall etc so you don't get to see them.

Actually it is the industrious ones today that made uncomfortable.
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