Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?

On 17 May 2008 03:45:41 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Damon Hill wrote:

--Damon, wondering if his electric service would be adequate
There is a major stumbling block in areas like ours: Monopoly, plus
baseline usage rules the monopoly imposes. The millisecond you
exceed baseline by IIRC as little as 30% electricity becomes
painfully expensive. Anyone who dared to use their A/C in summer
knows that. Unless this changes or one can line up a sweet and most
of all longterm night-time deal there won't be a realistic future
for electric cars.
Yeah, that's a gotcha I've been wondering about. Seems like a
smart charger would have to monitor total household current and
toe the baseline--especially during peak use hours. Result: no
quick charge when one might need it most. Hence the thought about
a deep hybrid...

Smart charging won't help. Baseline is counted over one month, no
matter when you used it. Night-reduction deals are available but then
the cost of running my biz will skyrocket because that has to be
during the day. At least it used to be that you only get the deal when
you accept very high "peak time" charges. For us that never made any
sense.


Should electric vehicles start to appear in significant numbers, this
and electric grid capacity issues will pop up like red flags. The
electricity infrastructure will have to adapt, which will not be
inexpensive.

Yep. But more important are longterm utility deals. In Europe we were
able to negotiate a 10-year deal before deciding to invest in a heat
pump system. Still, only a handful of people in town did, some
hesitated because 10 years wasn't enough planning security.


there's talk lately about new utility power meters that will meter your
service according to time of usage so they can bill you extra for using
power during high demand times.Coming soon,I suspect.


We had such a meter but didn't sign up for the day/night deal because it
would have cost us more. The meter was readable by a wand. Then the
meter croaked and they replaced it with a 50's style mechanical one,
looks brand new. No remote reading, nada. Talking about progress ...


my present digital meter is read by a PU-truck driving by.

On mine a person plugs in a probe.

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