Re: OT Gas Prices and the Blame Game



Don Klipstein wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Don Klipstein wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Don Klipstein wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
don@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Don Klipstein) wrote:

In any event the Loehle graph extends to 2000.

It doesn't. They extend to about 1995.

Oh sorry. I was out by 0.25%.

I meant to say they extend to about 1990. The world warmed quite a bit
after that.

Not significantly, and you of all people should know that attaching high
significance to short term change is plain idiotic. Loehle shows that we are
currently experiencing a very average climate (well temperature at least). As
did the 1990 IPCC graph more or less too. It's only that idiot MANN who
fraudulently misrepresented his data (froma SINGLE SOURCE - classic BAD
SCIENCE) with the lie of the hockey stick that made 'everyone' panic.

The IPCC has washed its hands of the hockey stick now btw.

Loehle has shown that temperature was average around 1930 and around
1980.

And is following a seemingly natural 1200 year or so cycle with the MWP around
0.5C warmer than it is now. Funny, how that happened naturally.

And don't say the MWP didn't happen. Archeological digs in Greenland
prove it was being farmed back then.

Make that MWP peaking about .45 degree C warmer than 1930 according to
the Loehle paper. And the Loehle paper and others showing the MWP don't
show warming at nearly the rate of the warming in the past 90 years.

Loehle shows modern warming to be nothing exceptional at all.

Graham

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