Re: More Gore

On May 27, 6:45 am, bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On 27 mei, 01:50, John Fields <jfie...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:46:01 -0700 (PDT), bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On 26 mei, 18:48, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Bob Eld wrote:
Richard Henry wrote:
Al Gore is not the issue.

He's a significant part of it. By popularising outright lies, many people
now have
an entirely false idea of what's going on with climate.

Graham

Tell us Eeyore, what is going on with the climate. You seem to be the
expert.

What's going on with climate ?

It's in a state of continual natural change. Pure and simple. CO2 is a
sideshow.

Graham hasn't a clue, so he is convinced that nobody else has a clue
either.

---
PKB?

Probably not. Amongst the subjects that I had to study on the way to
getting my Ph.D. in physical chemistry were infra-red spectroscopy and
elementary quantum mechanics, so I do have some understanding of what
greenhouse gases do, and how they do it, and what "pressure
broadening" is and why it is important.

There are - of course - whole areas of climate science where I am
probably nearly as clueless as Eeyore, but at least I do know what CO2
does and how it does it.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

And this is the crux of the matter. The only way to estimate the
effects of CO2 is through scientific investigation, and that is what's
being done, with some alarming results. It's a mystery to me how the
likes of Eeyore, J.T., J.F., etc. have the gall to either ignore or to
impugn the consensus of so many professional scientists. Where is
their data? Why aren't they publishing commentaries in professional
journals? Why don't they completely dismiss other large swaths of
science as well? Seems to me that if there's a worldwide conspiracy of
climatologists at work then it's probably just the tip of the iceberg!

--
Joe




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