Re: HadCRUT and other datasets



On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:44:22 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:47:41 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:54:56 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It would serve Eeyore a great deal to actually sit down and study
_all_ of the papers from Rasool & Schnieder's 1971 paper on CO2 (...)

Ummm....
<http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22global+warming%22>
184,000 papers on "global warming" and:
<http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22climate+change%22>
760,000 papers on "climate change".
<snip>

I said, "on CO2."
Jon

You mean there's a published paper on global warming that does NOT
mention CO2? Even those that blame bovine flatulence, cosmic rays,
rotting vegetation behind dams, ocean methane hydrates, carbonated
drinks, volcanoes, and municipal waste management practices, mention
CO2. I ran through the first 10 hits for this year and found that all
of them mentioned CO2 in some manner.

Incidentally, read your own line. You didn't say read all the papers
on CO2. You said that Graham should read all the papers on the topic,
starting with Rasool & Schnieder's 1971 paper on CO2. Subsequent
papers on the topic might not involve CO2.

Why just CO2? Isn't methane production an equal problem? Also, let's
not forget about the number one greenhouse gas, water vapour.

Pardon my cynicism, but the whole global warming mess reminds me
somewhat of the Y2K debacle in the late 1990's. Everyone had an
opinion. The press and public were innundated with dire predictions
of impending doom from computer malfunctions. I still have several
books on the topic. Emminent authorities proclaimed their uncertainty
(which was the equivalent of predicting disaster) mostly because
that's the only way they could get media time. One of the favored
mantras was "it's not the odds, it's the risks", which was popular
among the arithmetically challenged. Those not familiar with the
problem were stocking up on food, gold, ammunition, and slide rules.
It was a zoo. Then, nothing happened.

Oh crap. Windoze wants to update and reboot. I'll be back... maybe.

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