Re: Attorney generals trying to shut down usenet?

In article <cKF5k.43968$Ni1.27339@trnddc01>, James Arthur wrote:
MooseFET wrote:
On Jun 16, 6:19 pm, James Arthur <bogusabd...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[...privately or home schooled ...]

You're passing a moral judgement here: you'd decide (or
have government decide) which parents are fit to raise
their own kids. That's monstrous. Can't you see that?

It defies imagination that any parent so motivated could
be worse than the public schools, even if they tried.

You have a *very* weak imagination or you have seen only a very small
section of mankind if you can't imagine parents doing far worse than
the public schools.

Where I see the big hotspots of fuckups with public school students, I
also see megatonnage of poor parenting. The schools there are mediocre
and the parents tend to be a good half an order of magnitude worse - in
significant part by expecting the schools to do all the teaching work that
parents normally do some of. Also by all-too-much ignoring their kiddies
until they act up and try merely to control their kids and make them
behave, as opposed to showing their kiddies the world, answering as best
as most good parents can their kids' questions as to how things work, and
satisfying/feeding as opposed to punishing children's natural curiosity
into what is in the world around them, what goes on, how things work,...
Along with speaking to their kids too much in a harsh tone, and
excessively reserving a nice sweet tone of voice to current or prospective
sexual partners.
Along with considering the school to be "The Enemy" should the school try
to discipline the child who misbehaves mainly as a result of parental
failure (or as a result of living in a neighborhood with culture of
parental failure and lack of respect for education).

You must have much less experience with them than I do, and
much less faith in the basic goodness of the common man.

Anyway, it's not for us to judge: when kids reach 18 they
can do as they wish; until then, parents rule.

As a society, we take children away for seriously
bad parents all the time.

Oh no we don't. O.J. Simpson still has his kids. All manner
of druggies, misfits, teenagers, etc., all have theirs. Why?
Because the courts have decided they have that right.

Society largely removes children from unfit parents only for the
exceptionally spectacularly severe and spectacularly politically incorrect
crimes. My experience in Philadelphia is that too many low-class unfit
parents get away too much with physical abuse of their children as long as
the abuse is not sexual in nature. Let alone mental abuse, or educational
abuse such as expecting the schools to do all the teaching and having 2 or
fewer books in the house while children in the household go from age 2 to
past an age at which they should read well.

<SNIP all too much>

- Don Klipstein (don@xxxxxxxxx)
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