Re: Drill Now for oil

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:31:06 -0700 (PDT), MooseFET
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On Jun 26, 10:18 am, John Larkin
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:11:08 -0700, JosephKK <quiettechb...@xxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:15:38 -0700, John Larkin
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:29:18 -0700 (PDT), MooseFET
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On Jun 24, 8:13 pm, Simon S Aysdie <gwh...@xxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:34 pm, krw <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <slrng62tl3.mop....@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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In article <Ate8k.61$Eg.48@trnddc01>, James Arthur wrote:
MooseFET wrote:

It isn't taxes it is nonproductive spending that is the long term drag
on the economy.

Since one is quickly 106% converted to the other, what's the dif?

  The neocon tax cutters have a poor record at cutting spending - they
borrow to make up for less tax revenue, and spend like Democrats.  This
started with the Reagan administration.

That is true, mainly because the conservatives have never truely
been in power.

You're smearing neo-cons together with conservatives.  I agree with
Thomas Woods that neo-conservativism is merely another form of
leftism:

You are smearing neocons together with the left.  They are really
neither left nor right.  The left and the right are about what
theories you believe.  Neocons are about believing in fairytales.
They don't really have a political theory as most would recognize one.

"What is so revealing about Boot?s critique, though, and what in fact
makes his review newsworthy, is that it conclusively proves what
traditional conservatives have consistently alleged: neoconservatism,
at root, is merely a variety of leftism."--Thomas Woodshttp://www.amconmag.com/2005_03_28/article2.html

_We've Been Neo-Conned_, by Ron Paul
"One thing is certain: conservatives who worked and voted for less
government in the Reagan years and welcomed the takeover of the U.S.
Congress and the presidency in the 1990s and early 2000s were
deceived. Soon they will realize that the goal of limited government
has been dashed and that their views no longer matter.

The so-called conservative revolution of the past two decades has
given us massive growth in government size, spending and regulations.
Deficits are exploding and the national debt is now rising at greater
than a half-trillion dollars per year. Taxes do not go down ? even if
we vote to lower them. They can?t, as long as spending is increased,
since all spending must be paid for one way or another."http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul110.html

BTW:
Check out the results of the "conservatives" in many other places.
You will find many who should be called "neocon" not conservative.

The only way to limit government has been to
redirect spending.

Incoherent.

The government will *never* reduce spending.

You finally got a hit on the third pitch.

"A Neocon is a liberal who has been mugged by reality."

John

Not even on a good day.  Neocons are new age types that think they
know something about economics.

Economists think they know something about economics, too. There's not
a lot of evidence that they do.

There is a lot of politics in economics. Economists almost always
believe economic theories that support their political beliefs. The
is also an element of religion in it. The have faith in their models
beyond anything that can be proven in the real world.



Now it sounds like you're describing climatology. Both "sciences",
like psychology and sociology and string theory, can go far adrift for
lack of experimental culling of theories, buffeted by the winds of
politics and money.

Economics and climatology share the strongy-nonlinear-chaotic model
problem. If I drop a dime on the sidewalk in Cleveland, it may cause
the gold futures market in London to crash four years later.

John



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