Re: Scare of the day...

On Jun 27, 4:38 pm, James Arthur <bogusabd...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Don Klipstein wrote:
In article <48654A4D.99415...@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Eeyore wrote:

MK wrote:

Come on James -  at least quote the whole sentance:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed..
Indeed. Militia. Since when were individual gun owners part of any militia ?
Or indeed well-regulated.

Graham

  Go back to the "Founding Fathers" days.

  A "well regulated militia" is quite arguable a wel-equipped one.

  Also, the militia that was armed to fight for freedom was not
necessarily regulated by or even working for the government, but was
sometimes an independent one that was armed and prepared to consider the
government its enemy.

The founders' Militia _were_ the people. The Militia
were all the citizens who could unite under arms
to respond to crisis. As they did for the Revolution.

E.g., the Minutemen.  Ordinary citizens, of no
special qualification or training, nor membership
in any government-sanctioned group, with their own
weapons, ready to spring in defense of their
communities and nation.

Obviously, these could never existed, nor could the
Revolution have ever taken place if the citizens did
not have arms.

Later, James Madison argued quite openly (Federalist
46, 1788) that, though European governments were
afraid to trust their people with arms, the American
people need not fear a like tyranny from the proposed
new Republic because, unlike Europe, an armed American
populace would provide such a great deterrent--possibly
even an absolute protection--against an unjust government.

So, Madison envisioned a populace that was armed,
even possibly armed in opposition to their government,
and assumed this in proposing the new republic.  He
figured it'd keep the new government in check.

Which it has.  Even today, cops think twice before
rushing into someone's house.  They get warrants,
and they make plans first.

  As a result, I would think that the 2nd Amendment supposts Americans
having all the tanks, 20 and 30 mm gatling guns, .50 caliber large rifles
(even full auto ones), larger artillery, missiles, aerial bombs, fighter
and bomber aircraft, PT boats and submarines and destroyers and cruisers
and battleships and aircraft carriers that they want and can afford!

It's been opined by the District of Columbia Circuit Court
of Appeals that it's reasonable to assume the framers' intent
was limited to weapons of that day.

I have no opinion; I haven't considered it well enough.

So everyone is limited to single-shot muskets and handguns?
.

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