Re: Scare of the day...

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:38:07 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Don Klipstein wrote:
In article <48654A4D.994156F9@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Eeyore wrote:

MK wrote:

Come on James - at least quote the whole sentance:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Indeed. Militia. Since when were individual gun owners part of any militia ?
Or indeed well-regulated.

Graham

Go back to the "Founding Fathers" days.

A "well regulated militia" is quite arguable a wel-equipped one.

Also, the militia that was armed to fight for freedom was not
necessarily regulated by or even working for the government, but was
sometimes an independent one that was armed and prepared to consider the
government its enemy.

The founders' Militia _were_ the people. The Militia
were all the citizens who could unite under arms
to respond to crisis. As they did for the Revolution.

E.g., the Minutemen. Ordinary citizens, of no
special qualification or training, nor membership
in any government-sanctioned group, with their own
weapons, ready to spring in defense of their
communities and nation.

Obviously, these could never existed, nor could the
Revolution have ever taken place if the citizens did
not have arms.

Later, James Madison argued quite openly (Federalist
46, 1788) that, though European governments were
afraid to trust their people with arms, the American
people need not fear a like tyranny from the proposed
new Republic because, unlike Europe, an armed American
populace would provide such a great deterrent--possibly
even an absolute protection--against an unjust government.

So, Madison envisioned a populace that was armed,
even possibly armed in opposition to their government,
and assumed this in proposing the new republic. He
figured it'd keep the new government in check.

Which it has. Even today, cops think twice before
rushing into someone's house. They get warrants,
and they make plans first.

And, if you reach for a pack of kleenex or a cell phone in the wrong
dark place, five of them will put 40 or so bullets into you.

John



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