Re: Hurricane Bertha



On Jul 12, 12:46 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 10, 3:32 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:

On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:56:32 -0500, Bit Farmer wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On Jul 8, 8:09 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-
Site.com> wrote:
Hurricane Bertha...
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gVWjsPEiqe1tEu2mhBIRaxxGi8owD91P3HM80
has been formed by "W" to send a message to all leftist weenies... you
want global warming, you get global warming ;-)
Jim seems to be as daft as ever. Nobody in their right mind wants global
warming, but right-wing nitwits seem to think that a slightly warmer
climate is a small price to pay for the joy of being able to burn all
the carbon you want to, and that more intense hurricanes will only wash
away democrat-voting place like New Orleans.
So here is a twist on the Global Warming arguement.  A lot of people seem
to react to the notion that this is due to human activity.  Okay, so what
if it is just a natural cycle and say we move into an unusual warming
period due to whatever natural effect is causing it.  Do we just let the
ice caps continue to melt and raise sea level and deal with it as we go,
or can we be somewhat proactive about it and see if we can manipulate the
natural system somewhat to slow or reverse the process.
We should let Nature take her course, and if the "climate" gets
unfomfortable, we'll figure out what to do about it. People used
to figure stuff out, before they turned their will and their lives
over to the care of the bureaucracy.
The only experiment that's being done now is that the "carbon credit" tax
 > ...

And that's exactly where we have to watch it and act accordingly.If we
don't then warmingist politicians will push through some new nonsensical
tax. As we all know a tax, once it has been implemented, won't go away
for a very long time. 100 years is nothing. As has been evidenced by the
tax to fund the Spanish-American war.

All of which assumes that a new tax is going to be the worst thing
that can happen to us. Runaway global warming could run away far
enough to land us in a global extinction, which could entirely erode
the tax base (not to mention the need to collect taxes).

It could be your money or your descendants lives. You get to choose -
by the time your descendants might be in a position to make a choice
it might already be too late (though this doesn't look to be a high
probability scenario).

And you truly believe more taxes can fix that? Oh man ...

We are going to have to decrease the proportion of energy we generate
by burning fossil fuels and increase the proportion we generate from
sustainable sources - from windmills and solar cells. By adjusting the
costs to the usuers and manufacturers with taxes and subsidies to
reflect the hidden costs of the damage extra CO2 is doing to the
environment now and will do later, we can use the free market
mechanism to make the change-over work smoothly and efficiently, and
with a minimum of bureaucracy. If you can come up with a better
mechanism, the world will beat a path to your door.

My mantra: No more taxes.

Get a more rational mantra. Nobody likes paying taxes, but everybody
relies on the infra-structure that taxes pay for.
Privatising "natural monopolies" hasn't worked well - remember Enron?
- and the Republican tendency to cultivate "experts" who tell rich
Republicans want they want to hear has proved damaging to the economy.

Al Gore's "The Assault on Reason" has a fair bit to say about this
kind of self-indulgent foolishness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Assault_on_Reason

There are enough as it is. And I am glad to see that I am with the majority in California, else we wouldn't have Prop 13 (property tax cap, 2/3 majority requirement for any new taxes).

You may be glad at the moment, but even Calfornia is going to have to
get back in touch with reality eventually.

Oh, and no more socialist stuff like more bureaucracy. There is enough
of that already.

There may be, but you probably should be paying more attention to your
bureaucrats. There is a reason for paying people to be disinterested
experts, which the US should try and remember and act on before you
let rich industrial lobbyists further distort your economy for their -
regretably short-term - advantage.

The "ethanol from corn" stupidity is a case in point.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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