Re: history of the DDG

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:44:12 GMT, James Arthur
<bogusabdsqy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:00:52 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Peer review is a pretty lame excuse. Reviewers generally do not get paid
for that. I've done it a few times.

Peer review isn't an excuse for much of anything, really. The point I
was making is that the publishers of the periodicals want to "make
some money." It's my feeling that this is a reasoned request, but
that six months rights is all they should have.

I don't think journals have any right to appoint
themselves middlemen between publicly-funded research
and the public good.

They impede progress and the free flow of information.
And they overcharge to boot.

Well, I'm not going to fight you on that score. I'd rather it's all
immediately in the public domain. Perhaps, with universities taking
action and with scientists also taking individual action, there will
eventually be a sea change. There is already some impact.

But I'll also repeat again that I've never had to pay for a single
paper; and I've asked for papers that were only announced and hadn't
even "hit the stands" yet. So while I agree with the idea of "free
flow of information" as did every scientist I've talked with about
this, I'm not sure about the "impede progress" part of your comment.
The fact is, it seems from my experience anyway, that one does not
have to pay for ANY published article. Just write the authors.

Jon
.

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