Re: Hurricane Bertha

Joel Koltner wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:k2Sfk.18258$N87.18101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Experience at school doesn't count anyhow towards that kind of job description.

As far as putting down experience on a resume it absolutely does. I think what you're getting at is the huge difference between "yeah, I've played around with Word a bit" and "I wrote a PhD-level thesis with Word and in the process found and fixed several bugs -- the Office team at Microsoft gave me a framed plaque thanking me for my efforts" (exaggerating, but you get the idea) --, which is significant. However, a few students who really work with Office in high school are going to become just as proficient as many people in the workplace whose skills are considered completely adequate.


Ok, but they can't claim three years because that is usually meant as heavy duty every-day use at an office. I was always humble on resumes and just hinted that I had used this, that and the other technique but without stating a level of proficiency. Except for analog circuit design because I knew my way around that and did real design even before university.


That's where volunteer groups can be formed. Excellent opportunity for kids to get hands-on debug skills. That is how we do it at church.

Yeah, you're right about this Joerg, and I really should be more supportive of the concept, but I guess I'm just jaded by the culture today. How many kids really want to stay after school and learn how to re-install Windows 95 when they can just go home and play with their Xbox or Windows Vista Ultimate on their own PC? If you really want to get the technically-inclined kids interested, the way to go would probably be to kill off Windows and install Linux instead -- there's clearly a very strong "hacking" (in the good way) culture associated with Linux.


I'd try to let them work with something they can later use to make money. Very difficult with Linux unless you go into embedded design or micro server design. We were very interested in staying after school because it was interesting. If no kid is interested that raises some questions about whether a computer class makes sense at all. There has got to be some inherent motivation. For us that meant a little sacrifice because in Germany home-cooked meals were served at lunch, not dinner time. So we had to live with a sandwich instead. Didn't bother me a bit.


Sure, but if you master one Office version it's easy to learn the next on the fly. I learned Office 97 and still use it. Never had a problem jumping in front of a client's PC and do some work on Office-whatever.

Are any of them running Office 2008?


No idea, I just use what's there. Mostly 2000 and 2003 AFAIR. Sometimes 2007. I didn't even know there is a 2008. Unspoken rule: Settings and storage '97-compatible.

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