Re: OT: interesting global warming quote found elsewhwere



On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:53:34 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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Fig 2 is especially ludicrous. The only way they can make the CO2
threat alarming enough is to add a bunch of positive feedbacks, and no
negative feedbacks.

I can't say what in the heck you mean by "alarming enough." It's just
vague, to me. But climate scientists and the IPCC summary of their
work understand quite a lot about quite a number of both positive and
negative feedbacks. One needs to be COMPREHENSIVE in view to begin to
gather the error bars and the reason the IPCC WG I conclusions about
the science, so far. Just WG I, and it is really only a summary of
the science, is over 1000 pages.

Your selectiveness and ready willingness to imagine all manner of
conspiratorial, intentional malice with tens of thousands of active
scientists in related fields with widely varying motivations for why
they do what they do is shocking to me and stands as a self-created
monument of something that is a lot more about you than anyone else.

They probably have the cloud polarity backwards.

Have you done ANY reading of the peer-reviewed science on clouds in
the last five years? You couldn't even write that, if you had. And I
don't mean what you probably imagine I mean in saying that, either.

The historical record, temperature as a function of orbital dynamics
and vulcanism, doesn't suggest net positive feedbacks, and certainly
doesn't suggest the "tipping point" that's being cited as a
justification for immediate and drastic meddling in the economies of
the world. What's real is the price of food, and the billion people
who don't have enough. AGW is the new racism.

All just your remarkable intuition, which apparently you are so
egotistical as to imagine completely replaces any need for actual
study by anyone else, let alone yourself. We should just listen to
you, if you are any guide about it, on any fact of nature since you
already know the answers by just listening to your internal thoughts
about it, without even studying.

You are remarkable.

Jon
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