Re: An interesting view on how 'green' CFLs really are:

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On 28 Jul, 16:31, Tim Wescott <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:
An interesting view on how 'green' CFLs really are:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/07/27/eco.flourescent/index.html

So, LEDs?

Ultimately I think it's going to be condoms, pills and abstinence, or
mass starvation.

It's amazing how few people appreciate this. It doesn't matter if we
reduce our per-capita pollution by 10 times, reduce out resource
consumption by a factor of 10 and travel 1/10 as much, wait for a bit
more exponential population growth and we'll be back exactly where we
started. If the population could gently decline to half what it is
now, (without anyone needing to die of unnatural causes!) then
everyone could have the same amount of stuff each that we all have now
and practically solve most environmental and resource problems, (or we
could each have twice as much stuff with the same problems we have
now.) At some point, each generation will have to be no more populous
than the previous one, one way or another.

Chris


True, but that's probably the fastest way to get some people to talk abotu
shooting you - many people believe they have not only a right, but a duty,
to produce as many offspring as they possibly can, even when those
offspring must be supported by others to survive.

Also, from all I've read and heard, there is a US policy of not exporting
birth control to the poor in various nations, a policy which is not based
upon the would-be recipients own needs, desires, or choice, but rather,
upon the personal beliefs regarding morality of people here.

It's one of those thing that seems obvious, but runs head-on into very
deeply-held beliffs which oppose voluntary population reduction -
curiously, a great people seem to oppose birth control *far* more bitterly
than they oppose war...

.

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