Re: OT: interesting global warming quote found elsewhwere

On Aug 5, 10:40 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Joerg wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
Joerg > wrote:
bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx wrote:

Obviously, any model can become unrealistic. That doesn't mean that
you can't get good information out of models, merely that you have to
be careful. The IPCC is being pretty careful.
Careful? As in the case of the hockeystick curve?

The hockey-stick data wasn't a model, but rather the ineptly-filtered
presentation of raw data. Mann certainly screwed up, because he didn't
understand exactly how his filtering procedure worked. Even there, the
peer-reviewing process finally worked and his curves were eventually
discredited.

Wasn't that the guy who supposedly didn't want to release raw data? So
far for an organization being "careful".

And the person who discovered the mistake is the AGW-despised Steve McIntyre
(who was a peer reviewer for them at the time). Refused the raw data, he
'reverse engineered' somehow the figures and found the flaw.http://www.climateaudit.org/?page_id=354

Yet Mann's fraudulent and now discredited graph is a central plank of Gore's
comic film and much of all the AGW alarmism worldwide.

You do go out of your way to post ignorant and unsupportable
misconceptions.

Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" grew out of his 1992 book "Earth in the
Balance" which still reads very well, and considerably predates Mann's
paper.

Mann's curve had the right shape, but his filtering technique worked
rather better than it should have done

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_controversy

which is a piece of information that you should have managed to
process by now - you've been exposed to it often enough.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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