Re: Microsoft tries to polish a turd



JosephKK wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:17:19 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
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JosephKK wrote:
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My only copy of Vista came preinstalled and is sufficiently unstable on a
Toshiba laptop that I would never recommend anyone to use it.
I actually got Vista to a useable state - meaning: About the same speed as
the old 1.2 GHz Athlon 64 + 1 Gig RAM - But this time on a Dual core 1.8 GHz
Toshiba A300 lapdog with 3 GB RAM!!
Not too surprising, since a 1.8GHz processor isn't all that much
more power than a 1.2GHz, given the memory bottleneck. A laptop
will also be significantly slower than a decent desktop.
It's a dual core should be ~twice as fast.
Did the tooth fairy vist you last night?

There is a lot to of things switch off but especially: The service
"Superfetch" whitch sucks away all the RAM and "Readyboost" which I will
never use. Since it is a lapdog one can also set the HDD to use maximum
buffering because we have backup power.
HDD buffering has nothing to do with performance. It's there for
the disk drive, not the computer.
Vista likes to swap, swap & swap - so we want the disk to appear fast!
Hard disk "cache" has nothing to do with swapping. It's there for the drive's use (decoupling the magnetics from the interface), not the OS'.

On "Windows Features" I killed the following:

Remote Differential Compression*, Removable storage management, Servives for
NFS, Print Services, Windows Fax & Scan, Windows Meeting Space, Windows DFS
Replication Service, Indexing Service.
You don't use removable storage? Printers?
Names are misleading: The removable storage management is for legacy handling of NT backups, the print services are for web-printing; No, i do not use any of those.
Ah, and here I thought that "removable storage management" was used to support storage devices that were, well, removable. ...and printing services for...

Anyways:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/remove-optional-and-probably-unnecessary-windows-vista-components/

*responsible for hour-loooong drag & drop Vista Experience via Explorer!!!

Next job is to get dual-boot going!
I tried to get dual boot to work with two 'doze sessions (bringing
up a new drive) but one kept stomping all over the other, turning
both to mush.
It will work with Linux. Unfortunately my WLAN hardware is not recognised when test-booting from a Knoppix CD so there will be work to be done here.
I intend on trying that, though I'm not too optimistic that the Linux will find enough of my hardware to make it useful. I've given up (at least temporarily) trying to get Linux to work on my desktop, and that should have been a piece of cake.
Just for curiosity, what is the desktop hardware configuration? (MOBO,
CPU, RAM size, optional stuff like video, audio, etc.,)
Tyan K8W (S-2875S), Opteron, 3GB, Matrox G550 (all the rest of the stuff is integrated), two monitors (one DVI, one VGA). SuSE refuses to deal with the second monitor and a few other issues and forget Ubuntu. I can't get past the live CD. Installing is no help.

I was running SuSE 9.0 on it for a year or so, but gave up on 10.0 and never went back.
How strange, but maybe not. Suse 10.0 and 10.1 were a bit flaky. Try
10.3, it is real nice IME. Handles my A64-X2 dual core nicely and is
very clean. Radeon X2600 and 22 inch 19:10 flat panel as well.
10/100/1000 Ethernet, high d 7.2 sound on MOBO. Getting XP running
was ten times the hassle, mostly over sound.
I tried Suse for a couple of months.
It was hellish.
If I ever give Linux another go it will probably be with Ubuntu.
As I indicated a while back, I found Ubuntu to be totally unusable (i/e uninstallable). The display was unreadable (~.001pt fonts).
Which release?

Since you mention it, which Suse release gave trouble and on what
hardware?

IIRC 9.1 running on athlonXP 2400+ 1G RAM and a GX440 video card.
My main dislike was that if anything went wrong and KDE or GNOME failed to come up all I got was a text prompt on screen. I was just not willing to plough through 500 pages of manual learning Unix command line i/f from scratch.

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