Re: OT: interesting global warming quote found elsewhwere

bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote in
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On Aug 13, 1:19 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Don't encourage McIntyre - he needs to be persuaded to find
something constructive to do.

Ah, the usual. When arguments and evidence fails the person gets
attacked
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The evidence hasn't failed. McIntyre found a serious defect in Mann's
data-filtering procedure, which meant Mann's hockey stick curve should
have had more and bigger noise spikes down the handle, even though the
shape remained much the same.

Here are my questions.

(1) Why does the entire anti-GW argument always comme down to two people,
Mann and McIntyre? I don't know Mann btu I did look at McIntyre's website,
and it's just that - a website. I read teh link to his criticism of
something written by ?Hegerle?, but that wasn't a "paper", it was in teh
*letters* section of Nature. That makes it a very differnt animal - I
personally found the article deficient, but that's what it was - an
article. Not a full-blown paper. I don't recall that articles are
reviewed, at least nowhere near as rigorously as are papers, and any
sceintific professional knows that. So what's the big deal?

(2) When did this fellow Mann make his "hockey stick"? If it was some
years back, well, of course new data would have ceom pout, an dof course
pele whould have looked at his data and discovered any problems with its
interpretation - that is how sceince works. SOmeone does a study, other
peopl eread it, then go do their own studies, and then come back and
confirm what can be confirmed, and correct that which cannot. So what's
the big deal?


Sorry but, as someone who formerly worked in a research lab (biochemistry),
and who is in close contact with people doing ongoing R&D science, it seems
to me that this stuff shouldn't even be an issue, and only is an issue
because of pique.

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