Re: OT: interesting global warming quote found elsewhwere

Joerg <notthisjoergsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Kris Krieger wrote:
Charlie E. <edmondson@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:31:37 -0500, Kris Krieger <me@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
[snipped webiste URLs and so on]

... it doesn't convince me that there is no possibility of GW
and thus a Zero risk involved in assuming it isn't real.


Hi Kris,
I think in this case, it is more of a "Scientist A says AGW is
happening in study X with a temp. rise of Z", and so, we want to
know more about how and why he reached this conclusion. He should
have the data set that he used, and should have a bit to say about
how he manipulated this dataset.

I can see two sides, tho', Charlie - one being the honest desire of
some people to understand how somethign was done and how a conclusion
was formulated (heck, I'm curious about a lto fo things myself), the
other side being the researcher who would have to take the time (or
have busy employees take the time) away from all other duties so as
to answer who- knows-how-many requests (esp. given what someone else
mentioned about the potential number of requests from folks trying to
disprove teh analyses), ...


Very simple solution: Publish your input data along with the
conclusions. For a simple example of a very small clinical study, this
is how it's done correctly:


All I was addressing was, given one individual's supposed (whcih I have
to say since I've not seen the original paper) lack of data, some
possible reasons, other than being an unethical slimeball, why said
individual did not write back to a non-collegue. Coulda-woulda-shoulda
are different matters.

Re: the data, I'm assuming this is the entire crux of the matter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png



http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1767152

It's a study where one of our products was used. If you need more
details you click on the figures and they blow up into a larger
window. No patient names, of course, because that would violate
pricacy rights.

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