Re: Sarah Palin - hot or not?

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:35:34 -0700, StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt
<Zarathustra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:45:40 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Excel does hideous graphing. I use a real graphing program for
presentation stuff, or a pencil and graph paper for private stuff. Why
read the numbers, write them down, type them in, and set up plots,
when you can make dots directly on paper?

Kids these days! Never learned how to draw.


Excel is perfect for printing out blank, grid marked plots with numbered
ranges, such that one can hand fill data. What are you, nuts?

Again, you fail to know and utilize the utility of applications you do
not use often enough to understand the scope of their capabilities to
claim to be "experienced" with them.

The STANDARD, selected template plots are pretty bad. What one has to
do is get the plot started, and then massage the set-up so that the
finished product appears the way you want it, because after all, the plot
is a report function. It requires massaging before the final "report" is
set in stone. I will post an example of a good plot up in a.b.s.e to
show you soon.

OK, but you're showing me a way to do something that I don't need to
do. I've seen far too many people waste far too many hours making
useless graphs and charts with Excel.

We had one admin who use Excel for everything, even making simple
lists like the restaurants in the neighborhood. She couldn't think
without Excel. Actually, I suspect she couldn't think at all. Se
stylized Word docs so hard that nobody else could edit them. We fired
her.

I have a freeware program called GRAPHPAP that prints all sorts of
graph paper. And I have a book full of various graph paper masters,
suitable for copying, that actually looks the best. I use PROSTAT for
plotting if I have computer-file data.

If I have serious math to do, I write a program in PBCC, which has
excellent graphics, but is a serious programming language.

John

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