Re: Arctic sea ice

In article <48C0AE83.313E6DD3@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Eeyore wrote:

Don Klipstein wrote:

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
Don Klipstein wrote:

Are they afraid to show that since the mid-late 1970's the temperature
went up to an extent unsupported by sunspot count?

Let's say "they" are - can you cite data that supports _YOUR_ claims?

Sunspot count:

Wiki article on sunspots

Notable the graph linkable by:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sunspot_Numbers.png

Global temperature:

Smoothed HadCRUT-3 in the Wiki article on global warming.

Why would YOU want to introduce sunspots ?

I was not the one who did. As best as I can tell from indicated levels
of quotation, it was R. t-d. L. who did that.

There were none last month and the trend has been in that direction for
some time. That's normally associated with cooling.

And over the past 20-25 years or so global surface-level temperature
shot upward bigtime in a way deviating greatly upward from correlation
with sunspots that held fairly well for close to a century before the late
1970's.

Can you show us cooling without cherrypicking onto a time period
starting with the post-early-1940's greatest El Nino of 1998 or ending
with the the 20-year-greatest La Nina of late 2007 to mid 2008 or both?

- Don Klipstein (don@xxxxxxxxx)
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