Re: OT: Why welfare doesn't work!

"Jon Slaughter" <Jon_Slaughter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:0Wowk.20165$jI5.969@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

Does this argument make sense? (cause a friend of mine seems not to
think so)

The fact that kids who's parents that "live" on welfare also end up
"living" on welfare verses the kids who's parents do not live on welfare
prove that welfare does not work in getting people off welfare.

Hence welfare does not work unless the goal is to keep them on welfare.
So in fact the best way to make people successful is not to put them on
welfare.

This argument seems perfectly logical... anyone think it's not? Back up
by logical proof and facts.


It doesn't seem to be a matter of logic, but rather, a matter of statistics -
IOW, what is, is, regardless of whether someone chooses to not believe it.

Also, recall that "workfare" was called "making people into wage-lslaves".
Uh, as opposed to everyone else who has to do some sort of job for a living?

I don't mind helping people who have gfallen on hard times and need, oh,
retraining, job-search assistance, and even unemployment insurance payments
so they don't lose *everything* immediately after being laid off. But that's
quite different from supporting people forever just because they think they
don't want to put any effort into getting and keepign work and 'feel' that
they are "entitled" to be supported. It's different becasue helping laid off
workers find new jobs contributes to society in the long term, whereas
supporting people who merely demand to be supported drains society. What's
worst of all is seeing people who wrok two jobs to support their families,
and have a lower standard of living than someone who never worked a day. I
don't mind tax breaks etc. for teh "working poor", becasue, again, I
personally think that all work has some measure of dignity, because it's
doing something that needs to be done and therefore contributes to society.
But I've little use for people who, when asked to do some minimla work for
their welfare, kvetch and holler and bite the hands that feed them, as tho'
they're *too good* to do the jobs that other poeple have to do to support
themselves and their families.

Maybe that is the difference these days between being "liberterian" and being
"liberal"...? One believes in work, and the other doesn't...? I dunno, just
posing a possibility.



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