Re: Collective Salvation
- From: Tim Williams <tmoranwms@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
On Sep 9, 10:10 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
You have to see...<snip>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuaDC8SGxAM
and read...
http://www.elburton.com/blog/index.php?entry=entry080909-064140....
Opium of the Masses
So? And what's wrong with communism? I mean, really, what's wrong?
The ONLY thing that "communism" has meant for the last sixty years is
"irrational fear and hatred". No one sees it for what it's supposed
to be. That fear is supported by Soviet, Chinese and others'
atrocities in the name of communism, and drilled into us by just as
many years of Soviet-fearing propaganda. But Marx would hardly agree
with their implementation of it.
You're Christian, right? Do you realize that Jesus was a communist, a
hippie you might say? Alas, the world isn't nearly perfect enough for
all to live together in community, but the same utopian vision -- to
strive for -- is still there. It may take a visionary even smarter
than Marx himself (please go and actually *read* some of his works,
you'll quickly realize he's painfully precise and boring, as any
academic is) to formulate a passable communist state. But I think
it's possible to do it right. It will just take a while.
As for capitalism, why is capitalism obsessed with growth, anyway?
Can you give a sufficient explanation? I don't think you can. In a
world of finite resources, exponential growth is utterly and
completely impossible. (A quick calculation shows that, once we
tackle fusion technology, global warming will quickly become
inevitable (within a few centuries) -- not due to CO2 but due to pure
heat energy produced by the process!) We will eventually have to slow
down and change our economic and political system, for better or for
worse, in order to simply survive. Maybe not now (don't worry,
there's lots of energy and land still available to us), but some day.
Ya know, now I'm kind of curious about your response. Well, posting
from Google Groups is a bit of a handicap. But assuming you do see
this reply, you already know I'm not some liberal pinko, so you can't
dismiss my statements out of hand; still, your hard-engrained thought
process will deny as much of it as possible, producing a strong urging
for a quick, dismissive "leftist weenie", something you know isn't
true. I know it's never your style to sit down and actually debate
issues, but it's nice to hope for, at least...
Tim
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