Re: Collective Salvation


On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:10:43 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:50:20 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
<paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

It's disingenuous for the right wing to pick on Obama, or any other
Democrat, for referring to 'the collective'. The GOP (particularly under
Bush) has made significant inroads into the rights of individuals. And
he has done so by executive order, much as the Soviet Union did when it
existed. Fortunately, Democrats, and the few remaining true Republicans
have challenged him on some of his activities. There's really nothing
wrong with the citizens of a country, as a collective, deciding to do
something, as long as it is subjected to suitable restrictions. Those
that fear 'the collective' are most likely up to something that 'the
collective' wouldn't approve of, or the law wouldn't allow.

Back in the days of McCarthy, we feared Communism (capital 'C') because
it was an organization directed by a foreign power intent on exerting
its influence over us. And it attempted to do so by recruiting key
opinion makers and government officials to do its bidding out of the
public's view, rather than appealing openly to the masses. But today,
the current administration takes its marching orders from other foreign
powers, like sovereign wealth funds, the Mossad and Irgun. Where is the
reincarnation of Joe McCarthy when we really need him?

Paul, I'm a wee bit slow ;-)

Could you please cite what rights (as a citizen) it is that I've lost?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated,
and no Warrants shall issue; but upon probable cause, supported by oath
or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and
the
persons or things to be seized.

That's only quoting the 4th Amendment. Please cite those events where
you claim my rights have been circumvented. Don't give me any of the
generalized leftist BS, cite some real facts. I know it's hard for
you weenies to manage that, but PLEASE TRY ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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