Re: OT: Welfare does work...

On Sep 14, 4:55 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:41:40 -0700, Robert Monsen <rcmon...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:02:08 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<snip>

We already have a system that rewards efforts to escape from poverty.
If you escape, you get to live in a neighborhood where you don't need
bars on your windows and a gun.

Now.  Now.  That's very un-Democrat-like ;-)

However, I agree with your idea of a universal minimum wage.

Huh?  Where did I ever say universal minimum wage?

Pay
everybody 10k a year in monthly checks, and tax all consumption at
10%. Make the estate tax 95% again.

Why?  You don't want to leave your kids a nest egg?

If your kids are any good, they won't need a next egg, and letting a
disaster area like Dubbya inherit enough money to alow him to buy his
way to power has disadvantages obvious to everybody who is in better
contact with reality than Jim.

Offer free health care to all,
ensure that affordable housing exists, and provide free college to
anybody who can qualify.

That's fine.

So why do you support the party that opposes this because it's
"socialism"

Tax corporate profits at the same levels as
other western countries.

I do hope you understand that US corporation taxes are some of the
HIGHEST in the world... that's a good portion of the reasons why jobs
are going overseas.  So you're saying, "LOWER US corporate taxes" ?:-)

The tax rates may be high, but the exemptions are a legion, with every
corporation lobbying for it own private exemption, and every industry
lobbying for exemptions to that particular industry. You could
probably turn your balance of trade around if you found something
useful for lobbyist to do - like pushing up daisies.

<snip>

Also, we should outlaw corporations. The owners of companies (and that
includes shareholders) should be financially and criminally
responsible for any damage that the companies cause.

They already are.  Ask the ENRON types presently sitting in the
penitentiary.

Cheney and the rest of the Halliburton types aren't - yet, and there
are plenty of ther firms that still seem to be making enough to bribe
the right people. The Justice Departments case against Microsoft
wasn't pursued after Dubbya came to power.

The current scheme enables the rich to escape any liability far too easily, and
thus enables corporations to do many very questionable things in
persuit of profit.

That'll never happen... they'd soon become Republicans ;-)

                                       ...Jim Thompson

Have you looked at the republican party lately?

Have you looked at the Democrat (communist) party lately?

Jim is (far) right out of touch with reality. The US Democratic Party
would be seen a rabidly right wing in almost every other country
around the world (Burma might be a possible exception) and it
certainly doesn't qualify as socialist (which isn't the same thing as
communist at all, though from Jim's extreme right wing position, a few
light years to the right of sanity, the distinction is probably
imperceptible) let alone communist.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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