Re: OT: Play regular MPEG on a DVD Player?
- From: Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:14:57 -0800 (PST)
On Nov 21, 5:09 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Martin Brown wrote:
On Nov 21, 3:01 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Ok, maybe there is no such thing as an international MPEG standard. The
situation:
Whenever we try to play a DVD from Europe it does not work. Nothing
illegal here, just old movies that were never available here and never
will be because they are in foreign languages and, well, too "boring"
for youngsters. Then wedding recordings and such.
On the PC all this plays just fine. The DVD spits it back out either
with a wrong region message or it tries and tries (letting off some
weird chirping noises from the drive) and spits it out with some other
error message. Aren't those things to play regular MPEG just like PCs?
At least that's what it says in the manual. I've also tried PAL-NTSC
conversions and that didn't fly.
The setup here: Magnavox BDP170 upconverting player via HDMI cable into
the TV. So it should be able to play stuff that isn't NTSC. I've tried
lots of formats from VLC Player such as mp2v and whatnot (if someone
knows which one works let me know). Nothing worked here so far. Is the
only option really to convert to NTSC or to schlepp the PC into the
living room? Wasn't DVD supposed to do away with all this?
Yes, but region coding and copyright management stuff gets in the way.
Next time you are in the London elctronic district buy a chipped
version of DVD player and you can play just about anything. ...
But then it would output PAL standard and our TV won't take it. I guess.
No idea how HDMI plays into that.
... They even
chipped the DVD player for the ISS (a criminal act in the USA of
course).
Whoops. But I assume that "lapse" will be papered over ...
You might be able to find how to make a given model of player region
free by poking around on the net. Quite a lot of players in the UK are
chipped or easily chippable since we don't like waiting ages for PAL
DVD releases (or being ripped off by the £1 = $1 exchange rate.
Well, I don't even want to do that. Other than some really old movies we
don't watch much. Just want to be able to see stuff like a relative's
birthday video, weddings and such.
In that case it should not be the region code lockout but something
not quite right with the MPEG stream from the viewpoint of a domestic
US only (ROW does not exist) DVD player. In Europe we like our DVD
player hardware to be as promiscuous as possible (manufacturers lock
down the region but plenty of guys exist to unlock it).
Your best bet is German DVD and MPEG manipulation software which is
among the best at examining transport streams and determining their
detailed characterisitcs. Some of the tools include transcoders that
will convert transport stream to programme stream and vice-versa
(relative timing vs absolute timing). It could be something like this
that is causing your DVD player to baulk at playing European encoded
material. Do no harm to ask for advice on the video groups they will
know the best way to make it work with least effort.
I am told ProjectX written in Java is quite good at this sort of thing
(try it at your own risk). It should at least give you enough
diagnostics to see what is different between things that will play and
those that won't.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ProjectX
Regards,
Martin Brown
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