Re: Battery charging with intermittant power source
- From: Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 18:26:07 -0700
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:43:34 +0800, rebel <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:21:55 +0100, Jan <Nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
rebel wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:41:18 -0800, Scott Ronald <scottm361@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi I am wondering about the best way to charge lead acid batteries from
a source that cannot be relied on for constant power such as wind, or
solar. So far I am looking at 2 ways to do this:
Cycle charging
For this method I need a constant current, until the charge voltage is
reached, then maintain the charge voltage for a time, or until the
current drops to a minimum, after which I drop to a float voltage.
The difficulty with this is that the charge cycle can be interrupted at
any time, and might be restarted when the battery is partly or fully
charged.
Floating
For this I would set the current limit to the maximum battery charging
limit plus the battery's output current, and set the regulation voltage
to the lead acid float voltage. From the reading I have done on this
topic I believe that this will shorten the service life of the battery.
(a) Attend to what Ed said.
(b) Are you thinking of flooded cells, SLA/VRLA or ... ?
(c) Why do you think your "cycle charging" approach is compromised by the
intermittent source?
Lead acid batteries are best charged with a constant voltage source.
Charge current depends on the state of the charge of the battery.
It works similar in a car.
Constant voltage source and a discharged battery can mean quite huge intial
charge current. In ALL types there needs to be SOME mechanism for limiting
current into the battery. Whether this is intrinsic in the charger (which it
often is) defines the need to provide a specific limiting mechanism.
For SLA types, simple CV charging is NOT the regime of choice. A worthwhile
read on care and feeding of SLA's can be found in Unitrode (now TI) app note
U-104 (search for SLUA115.pdf).
I'm still waiting to see the O/P's responses to (b) and (c) above.
Charging lead acid should be based also on _temperature_:
Refer to my patents...
3,496,447 Alternator Voltage Regulator Responsive to Temperature
3,505,590 Temperature Responsive Output Voltage Apparatus
3,522,482 Temperature Compensated Voltage Regulation
3,546,563 Alternator Voltage Regulation Utilizing A Constant Current
Source
(Copies in PDF format on my website, near bottom of home page)
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