Re: Specially for the Slow Man
- From: bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:01:55 -0800 (PST)
On 14 jan, 04:43, JosephKK <quiettechb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:06:24 -0500, "Charles"
<charlesschu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
<bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I recently reminded you that both Greenland and Antarctica are
experieincing a nett loss of some 100 gigatons of ice per year from
their ice-caps - more snow is falling on both ice-caps because the
surrounding oceans are warmer and evaporating more water, but even
more ice is sliding off the edges.
Methane gas is being released as the ice caps melt. This gas, released into
the atmosphere, could be 10 to 20 times more potent than CO2 as a greenhouse
agent.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071025174618.htm
Other sources predict a more rapid release of methane which could be a
future nexus in global warming, from which it could become a runaway system
with no hope of anthropogenic intervention. Positive feedback should be
well understood in this forum, but is entirely ignored in discussions of GW.
Most of the geniuses here just don't care.
Please remember, within the past 400 Million years there has been no
thermal runaway, both with CO2 concentrations both far lower and far
far higher than today.
Wrong. Search on "the clathrate gun"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
Second, by track record, CO2 in the atmosphere
follows temperature, the rises we are seeing now are most likely the
result of the middle ages warm period, rather than any human activity.
Yes the lags are that high! Restudy the ice core data.
Wrong again. Search on the Suess Effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suess_effect
Not that i am some genius, but i do care about the environment. I
believe in cleaning up after ourselves. I do not believe in imaginary
bugaboos used to promote political agendas. The easily verifiable
fraud of the Michael Mann submittals makes my hair stand on end, high
school students have contested it, successfully (in unbiased forums).
High school students might, using unrelialbe information obtained from
denialist web sites.
Mann's "hockey stick"curve has been replicated by roughly a dozen
independent researchers, most of whom have had the benefit of
McIntyre's dubious experise in data analysis.
If Michael Mann's data analysis was defective, he was unaware of it,
so he didn't have any intention to deceive, and since hs results
happened to be right, nobody was deceived, so your accusation of fraud
is - in itself - fraudulent. Denialist web-sites love to throw
accusations of fraud around, which is decidedly ironic
Make no mistake, i love our national parks, state parks, ... and
municipal parks. I like trees and frogs and wasps and bushes and
mushrooms and flowers and beetles and ground hugging plants and slugs
and ferns and microflora and microfauna all the rest of wild life.
Good for you. Now go and find out a bit more about them from reliable
sources.
--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
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