Re: OT: Global cooling 34 million years ago

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 05:43:50 -0800 (PST), bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:

On Mar 5, 3:07 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:55:57 -0600, "Tim Williams"





<tmoran...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If someone
invented a clean, cheap source of, say, fusion energy, they'd be
against it.                                            ^^^^^^

Actually, I'm against it too ...

See? What I said.

Um, John?  Since when have you EVER associated myself with "they", i.e., The
Warmingists?

My objection to widespread fusion power is simple to see with some
multiplications and a couple of centuries use.  In fact, Sloman understood
my statement correctly.  That's scary, John.

Tim

The sun dumps about a kilowatt per square meter of heat onto us. The
surface area of the earth is about 5e14 m^2, about 100,000 m^2 per
person. So if everybody consumes a kilowatt, which is unlikely, the
relative energy is insignificant.

The prime indicator of human misery is low availability of power.
Cheap electric power would lift a lot of people out of ghastly
poverty. Some people actually want to purge the planet of the pest
that is Man, and choke off energy supplies in the process; their
policies will indeed kill a lot of people, especially kids.

Not as many as the denialists, or as fast.

AGW skeptics hurt nobody; things like cap-and-trade, and burning food
to run cars, will kill people.

Hardly any countries have done anything about living up to Kyoto
agreements, and China and India and the rest of the developing world
will simply not restrict energy use (lots of nasty coal) for our
benefit. Climate tokenism just hurts the poorest people without
affecting CO2 levels (whatever consequences *that* may or may not
have.)

Longterm, the best thing to do is develop those countries, which takes
energy now. Development is the surest means of population control.

John


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