Re: Any Christian Electronic Designers Here?

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:13:13 +0100, John Devereux
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

krw <krw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:37:43 +0100, John Devereux
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

krw <krw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:38:16 +0100, John Devereux
<john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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You don't know the answer, so therefore god did it?

If the answer is unknowable, that's as good as any other.

But that is a dead end - it closes off enquiry while explaining nothing.

If something is unknowable, yes that sorta closes off the whole
explaining thing. Yes, after that it's religion.

And it is not *in principle* completely unknowable. For example future
experiments might be able to reproduce a pathway to life consistent with
the conditions at the time. The chemical composition of the stars was
deemed absolutely in principle forever unknowable, before the invention
of spectroscopy.

You say so. You're now the religious one.

No, I don't think it is comparable.

The universe doesn't care what you think.

I am not saying that we *will* find out how life began. Perhaps we will
never have enough information about the initial conditions. My point is
that to give up and say "we don't know the answer, therefore god did it"
has not proven to be a useful approach to scientific questions. This is
not another religious opinion, it is historical fact.

Of course you can "win" any argument with the appropriate strawman.

I don't suppose you are familiar with the concept of plate tectonics?

I suppose he would. It's a fairly recent theory, but rather widely
known.

Why did god bury all the fossils? Always in a precise order in
corresponding geological strata - almost as if they were laid down over
hundreds of millions of years.

To tease disbelievers. ;-)

Ah, the "god is a liar" theory :)

No, simply more complicated that your pet religion du juor.

Well, you are correct in that evolution is a simpler explanation.

FOr what it explains, yes. As even you pointed out, it doesn't
explain the creation at all. Extrapolating back doesn't work from
zero+epsilon to zero.
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