Re: The end is in sight

James Arthur wrote:
Bob Larter wrote:
flipper wrote:
On Thu, 07 May 2009 03:11:13 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Wed, 06 May 2009 09:41:15 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

James Arthur wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
bill.sloman@xxxxxxxx wrote:

James Arthur <bogusabd...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Show me a country not fitting that description, one where socialism
pays for itself--as opposed to being subsidized by, say, a North Sea
oil bonanza--and you'll have my attention.

China's the only one that pops to mind...
You need a new mind, or at least a second hadn midn taht actually
works. Sweden, Germany, France, the Netherlands ...
What's truly hilarious that one of the lowest national debts is held by Russia ! The
USA's is over TEN times more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

Graham


I specified self-supporting. Russia's surplus comes from nationalizing
their oilfields.
Oh, please.

Whose people had the better standard-of-living, back when we were less
socialist, and communism reigned supreme?

How's that revolution-thing working out for Cuba? It's been what,
50 years? Are they a paragon of health, wealth, science, and
productivity?

I'm interested in examples where public ownership of the means
of production supports its own weight, outperforming alternatives.
According to right wingers, a country can be socialist without "public ownership of the means of production".
That's true.
Thank you.

"Socialism" covers a range of theories with actual "ownership" of the
means of production being the most extreme case.

And you haven't mentioned Sweden, Germany, France, or the Netherlands.

Bonus points given for examples where the rulers deign to use the
same healthcare / retirement systems they create for their subjects.
You think that any POTUS uses an HMO, or collects Social Security in their old age?
Are you going to address any of the points I was trying to make?

You need to pay more attention to indentations.

I'll ask you again: Do you think that any POTUS uses an HMO, or collects Social Security in their old age?

You addressed those questions to me, and I answered in
full.

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5/6/2009, 8:25 AM.

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From: James Arthur <bogusabdsqy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Message-ID: <QRiMl.2828$fy.2429@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: The end is in sight

>> Bonus points given for examples where the rulers deign to use the
>> same healthcare / retirement systems they create for their subjects.
>
> You think that any POTUS uses an HMO, or collects Social Security in
> their old age?

Obviously not. That's the point, isn't it?
If it's better, why isn't it voluntary?
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So, you agree that the rulers of a country rarely use the Health Care & Social Security systems that they run for the masses?

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