Re: Overview Of New Intel Core i7(Nehalem) Processor

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 06:51:27 -0700, JosephKK wrote:

If you want to download a single file, FTP offers no advantages over HTTP,
is more complex, has more overhead, and makes it harder to secure both the
server and the network. Also, the lack of metadata with FTP can be a
problem for non-English locales.

I have actually looked at the mechanism used in both protocols, and
FTP wins on all counts. When i DL files i always look for the FTP
link as it is more secure for my end

You'll need to substantiate this.

Check the RFCs.

How long are you going to keep trying this "check ..." or "read up
on ..." schtick?

I don't doubt that, if there was actually something in the RFCs to
substantiate your position, you would have cited chapter and verse. Vague
"read the RFCs" statements tend to be reserved for when you wish to
impute ignorance but can't actually find anything to substantiate such a
claim (or if you find something which might help but where citing a
specific opens the door for refutation).

In particular the partial support for downloads in
HTTP, thus the need for a downloader tool to replace much of the
functionality native to FTP. e.g. error checking and block retry.

I asked you to substantiate the *security* claims.

FTP doesn't provide any error detection beyond detecting premature
termination (which can also be detected for HTTP). Block transfers permit
the sender to indicate that portions of the data are missing; they don't
deal with transmission errors.

and does not suffer from a bazillion flavorizations.

Nor does HTTP.

Really? Check the various generations, nicely documented in the RFCs.

I'm aware that there is more than one version of the HTTP standard. FTP is
hardly immune from having been extended. Neither of these amount to "a
bazillion flavorizations", although the process of extending HTTP is
rather more formalised. Many of the FTP extensions started out as
additions to specific programs which were subsequently adopted by other
programs and eventually as part of the standard.

Why would i wish to gunk up my system with 57
varieties of unneeded software to do what i can already do?

I don't know, why would you wish to?

What extra software (beyond a web browser) do you think that you need?

Precisely my point, it does NOT need 57 different HTTP downloader
programs.

Which is precisely my point. HTTP does not need "57 different HTTP
downloader programs" either. I've never seen any need to install anything
other than the browser itself to download files via HTTP.

Most HTTP download managers are a scam; if you fell for it, that's your
problem. The only actual "functionality" which most of them offer is the
ability to circumvent the fair sharing of limited bandwidth. If bandwidth
is limited, and shared equally by all connections, splitting a download
across multiple connections may increase your download speed (or it may
just get you banned).

.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: Safe Update problem
    ... The reason is that the object being used to fetch the file is the NetWebClient, which is an HTTP client. ... You can replace the SafeDownload procedure in your application with your own version that uses the NetTalk FTP template to fetch the file for you if you have to use FTP to download the file. ... Why I can download file from ftp when I using url without login and password for example: ...
    (comp.lang.clarion)
  • Re: Updating a VB6 across the Internet
    ... Can you host the update download on an HTTP? ... I wrote an update function into the program using FTP calls. ... Many corporate firewalls do not allow users to use FTP. ...
    (comp.lang.basic.visual.misc)
  • Wget and proxy:question
    ... I have a Linux PC behind a proxy; I can download stuff (http and ftp) ...
    (comp.os.linux.networking)
  • Re: Encrypted transfers to/from vendors
    ... If you are sending data to ECuRep, it supports HTTP, HTTPS, FTP, ... FTP site? ... Is ECuRep strictly for uploading? ... and there wasn't an obvious "download" directory ...
    (bit.listserv.ibm-main)
  • Re: why use ftp if http provides the same services???
    ... >> when downloading a file often the websites give two option..either ... >> download it from a ftp site or http.. ... >> html.eg.word,spreadsheet file) from http server and ftp server.? ...
    (comp.lang.java.programmer)