Re: Silly resistor values

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:53:55 -0700, "Joel Koltner"
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As Keith said it'll take away the choice. If a single-payer system says this
or that ain't covered then that's the end of the rope.

Sure, but if your current insurer says something isn't covered, how many
people *really* have the option to go off and find a different insurance plan?
Of those who are in employer-provided plans, I'd say very, very few.

Many employer offer several plans. You're always free to buy you own.
Of course you might have to give up the 50" plasma TV, but...

Those of you who are self-employed clearly do have more options here...
although my understanding is that you tend to end up paying even more for a
given level of coverage than what most employers would be paying.

That's where the system can easily be fixed. *Allow* insurance
companies to pool people who don't have a "common interest". This is
currently forbidden in most (all) states. Also allow high deductibles
(currently forbidden in many states) to go along with HSAs. Give
people an incentive to buy insurance by letting some stupid ones lose
their SUVs.

At some point we also have to acknowledge that there's only so much money to
go around and in trying to determine what's covered and what isn't we need to
look at what provides the most bang for the buck: It doesn't make sense to
spend, say, $10k on a procedure for 1 person where there's only, say, a 20%
chance of success when you could perform 10 $1k procedures with, say, 90%
success rates.

Ah, so the federal government should just tell people to shut up and
die, already. Why shouldn't that person, with the "only" 20% chance
of living decide for himself what his life is worth? If you really
believe what yo wrote above, you and Obama belong together. I just
hope your wife, or daughter, doesn't get breast cancer.

The most disturbing part of the Obama health care plan is the purposed desire
to limit alternative insurance; that doesn't make any sense, and in other
countries there are systems where private and government-run insurance
peacefully co-exist.

Obama doesn't want health care. He wants "equality". Once you get
your arms around that concept you see what he's all about. He wants
to distribute misery equally.

Meaning top care only for top earners. That's what lots of people do in
Europe. They travel to Hungary, Poland etc.

But are they just trying to save money? Or certain procedures just aren't
available in Europe?

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