Re: Schematic Entry Tools? (from: Silly Resistor Values)

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:33:18 -0500, krw wrote:

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:40:56 -0500, Terry Porter
<linux-2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:41:52 -0700, Joerg wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Aug 16, 3:30 am, krw <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ok, I'm finally fed up with OrCad Crapture, so am looking for
something that actually works. My basic needs are hierarchical
entry and Allegro back-end compatibility (this is negotiable, but it
won't be an easy sell). Cost is important, but Crapture isn't
exactly free so there is room here. Compatibility (at least import)
with Crapture would be a big bonus. Suggestions?

gEDA - it runs under Linux. IIRR you can import Orcad stuff

http://www.gpleda.org/


But messes up reference designators for multi-part devices upon
annotation, big time.

Hardly a show stopper when it is GPL'd and almost no cost ?

You have *GOT* to be kidding.

Not at all.


This problem can be fixed manually if you have the time. And as time
equals money, you will have the time, because gEDA is Free.

You have *got* to be kidding.

Nope, I never kid.


So if Keith is doing analog stuff which I assume he does I'd
(currently) suggest not to.

I'd suggest he does, because your one anti gEDA reason is hardly
compelling to me.

Not a chance. In addition to the problems mentioned (enough to not even
try it), our IT does not support Linux.

That's too bad for them, and too bad for you.

That just isn't going to fly.

Neither will you or the company you work for, weighed down and locked in
by Windows.

I guess you're not in embedded, or if you are, your IT wont be supporting
much of anything in the not too distant future.


I've tried gEDA, running Ubuntu in a virtual machine. When mentioning
the deficiency (politely) some folks on the gEDA newsgroup flew off
the handle.

So you're saying that the gEDA folks, whilst capable of building a
stable, reliable, Orcad like schematic capture application, that's GPL'd
and Free, 'fly of the handle for no reason' ?

Yeah, so "free" it's unaffordable.

On what basis do you make that claim ?


Your post, lack credibility to me as it reads like a personal attack. I
know the gEDA designers, and a friendlier, more approachable bunch, I
doubt you'll ever meet.

That was my sign to hang it up for now and stay with Eagle.

Really?
The same Eagle that's DRM'd ?

Have you checked your schematics lately, anything missing ?

How about tomorrow ?

Oh, good grief. Spoken like a true hacker.

Spoken like a true Windows user.

Some of us have real work
to do.

Then I suggest you get on with it, because you're boring me here.

Playing with tools ain't it.

Where I come from, knowledge is power, and learning is called education.

It enables those who are ignorant to increase their value, worth, and
income, but involves real effort, not trite emotive jibes.





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