Re: global warming

On Sep 22, 8:48 pm, Michael <mrdarr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 22, 10:51 am,Bill Sloman<bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Sep 22, 7:28 pm, Richard the Dreaded Libertarian

<freedom_...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:20:48 -0700, J.A. Legris wrote:

AGW is just one symptom of the real problem - overpopulation. If we don't
get it under control soon we're collectively no smarter than brewer's
yeast.

And, of course, you get to be on the committee that decides whom to
execute, right?

Can you say, "holocaust?"

Try engaging your brain Rich. The "holocaust" killed six million Jews,
which was a fairly small proportion of the extra deaths that occurred
during WW2. The world population kept on rising anyway.

The population of Europe - as a whole - has pretty much stabilised
since WW2 as social expectations and influences have persuaded women
to have fewer children.

So if someone is talking about limiting population expansion, are they
going to be interested in killing people? Or in persuading more women
to have richer careers and fewer children?

Think about it. It is a skill that you should be able to master, and
it could be applied to other areas of your life as well.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Which is worse... a slightly warmer (or cooler?) planet in 50-100
years, or Sharia law imposed on Europe within 15-40 years, due to low
fertility rates of Europeans and high fertility rates of Muslims?

<snip>

in 15 years the Netherlands will be 50% Muslim.  Germany and France
will be Muslim states by 2050.

The current Muslim population of the Netherlands (where I live) is
5.8%. In France it's around 9% and in Germany 3.6%

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4385768.stm

If the Netherlands were going to be 50% Muslim in 15 years, a high
birth rate isn't going to do it. You'd have to find some 15 million
extra Muslims - 30 children per couple in 15 years? - and fit them
into the country between then and now, or slaughter most of the non-
Muslims in the country.

Are you predicting an invasion or a massacre? Or just exhibiting the
usual right-wing incompetence about facts?

Some issues are simply larger than others.

Some issues - the relatively high fertility of the current generation
of Muslims in Europe does come to mind - do get blown up out of all
proportion. You'd have to extrapolate the current trend over something
like three centuries to get a Muslim majority in Europe, and if you
extrapolated the current trend in church attendance over the same
period - a slight more credible exercise - you wouldn't find enough
Muslims left to fill a mosque.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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