Re: Ping Bil Slowman; The global warming hoax reveiled

On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:18:46 -0800, Joerg <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:
On Nov 25, 5:59 pm, Joerg <inva...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Nov 25, 1:51 am, Joerg <inva...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill Slomanwrote:
On Nov 24, 1:18 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:02:34 -0800 (PST)) it happenedBill Sloman
<bill.slo...@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
<53439409-1c59-4180-846c-a5019132d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Sad, but not exactly a volcanic eruption. Since you have not
identified the city or found a URL to back up this story, I could
wonder whether it was the sort of urban legend that the Prussians
invent whenever they talk to people about the Bavarians.
Well, you could have googled:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staufen_im_Breisgau
Gypsum, geothermal heating and damage does pick it up twice on the
first page, so Joerg should have been able to find it. It was his
fact, not mine, and his responsibility to validate it.
Well, I did. But anyhow, all I wanted to show was how easy it is for
homo sapiens to do something really, really stupid in order to "solve"
some environmental concern quickly. So I fully understand Jan when he
says he doesn't want to live on top of a gigantic CO2 bubble. I most
certainly would not want to either.
You live in Oregon. Here is a web site that gives the locations of
potentially active volcanoes in your state.
http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-or.html
I'd suggest that if you are worried by potential sources of danger
under your feet, you should pack up and move to Barendrecht
immediately.
http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/five-worst-volcanic-disasters-in...
I live in Northern California, about 35 miles east of Sacramento. And I
am rather unafraid of volcanos, earthquakes and fires versus some
"grand" ideas of man to "solve" a perceived crisis.

Perhaps you should try to develop slightly more realistic perceptions
of risk. There are potentially active volcanoes in Northern California
too.

http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-ca.html


Yup, Clear Lake, about 100 miles from here. Last activity 10000 years
ago. Oh, now I won't be able sleep anymore ...


In the same way that I support the rigorous clinical testing and
validation of stuff in my field of medical electronics.

Joke. When I was involved, most of the "potential risks" were based on
"research" carried out by medicos who had never heard of double blind
experiments and didn't know how to test the statistical significance
of their results. Your approach to evaluating potential risks doesn't
suggest that the situation has improved in recent years.


I am not going to comment as you obviously do not know much about that
profession. Rest assured that if you do get into cardiac trouble the
stuff we have designed here is fully validated and safe. The major
hospitals in your country have it.


Where's the
_thorough_ testing and validation of CO2 storage in old gas fields
documented? Got any links?

http://www.k12-b.nl/


Since 2004. Not exactly a long and thorough test. Plus it looks like
it's under the ocean, not cities.


http://www.ieagreen.org.uk/7.pdf


Quote: "Initial investigations in the USA indicate that it may be
possible to inject CO2 into gas fields that are approaching the end of
their productive lives and enhance gas production, without contamination
of the residual gas. Further research into CO2 enhanced gas production
is required. If, however, it is established that the process is
technically feasible, then the overall cost of CO2 capture and storage
could be similar to that in oil fields."

I assume you know the meaning of the li'l word "may" :-)

Hint: No, it's not a month.


are the first two google hits. The second mentions that CO2 injection
is a well-established technique for sweeping the last natural gas or
oil out of a nearly depleted field.

"CO2-EOR is commercially proven. It is used extensively in the USA,
where 74 projects
are now operating, injecting some 33 million tonnes of CO2 annually."


Like where?


It may be going on in an oil field near you, but I'd still pay mre
attention to the volcanoes. They are much more likely to let loose
unexpectedly and on a large scale.


The nastiest one in a very long time was Mount St.Helens. And the folks
killed there were AFAIR those who dared to climb up fully knowing it
could go off any minute.

One can only hope that Slowman will get a cardiologist who is so
ignorant to have never heard of tPA ;-)

So effective that I went from chest-crushing pain to, "Can I go home
now?", in a few minutes time.

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How severe can senility be? Just check out Slowman.
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